29.8.11

Further confirmation that Libya has been handed over to "al-Qaeda" with Western help.

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In handing Libya to Al Qaeda, the line has been forever crossed

Tony Cartalucci at Infowars.com

First – let’s not labor under any delusions. Obama, Cameron, and Sarkozy are heads of state in name only. It is the depravity and megalomania amongst the banks, corporations, and the institutions they have contrived, that are responsible for the most egregious betrayal in Western history. For 10 years the West’s leadership have stirred up hatred and fear amongst their populations to justify a lengthy and very costly global war that has sent US, British, Canadian, German, French, and many other troops, around the world, into dangerous adversity, and ultimately to their graves to fight “the forces of terror.”

Now, almost as if savoring the irony, the New York Times, on behalf of the corporate-financier oligarchs that presume dominion over the Western world, fully admit that Al Qaeda terrorists,

men who literally killed US troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan

are now in Libya and are the benefactors of billions of dollars in Western aid,

Diplomatic recognition,

Training,

Weapons,

The lending of intelligence assets,

The full unwavering support of the West’s “media,”

NATO-member air support,

AND even graced with Western special forces fighting side-by-side with them on the ground.

This timely confession is also in response in part to revelations that the Libyan rebel commander now filling the streets of Tripoli with indescribable horror is a hardcore Al Qaeda leader, reported first in the Telegraph months ago, and again this week on RT and covered in depth by respected geopolitical analyst Dr. Webster Tarpley.

While naive Americans are brimming with pride as the military machine bankrupting them into destitution rolls over another minute nation an ocean away, they seem ignorant or unable to wrap their minds around how egregiously they’ve been betrayed. After 10 years, thousands of dead troops, tens of thousands broken mentally or physically, an economy diverted to war, occupation, and “nation building” overseas while America’s infrastructure rots beneath her, the corporate-financier oligarchs have decided to betray and infinitely humiliate America’s armed forces in the worst manner imaginable – have them provide air cover, intel, and special operational support for blood-thirsty mercenaries that hunted and killed their brothers in arms for the past decade.

Entire families have been destroyed, communities devastated by the loss of their brothers and sisters, friends, mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, fighting what they thought was a war for the very survival of their way of life. Today, in Libya, with Al Qaeda literally being handed a nation-state by these corporate-financiers through their political and military proxies, the leaders we have elected and the corporations we have helped grow to monstrous proportions now squat upon the graves our nation’s fallen and defile their memories and the ideals they believed they were giving their lives for in an unforgivable way.

And while it will be claimed by many that this is “Obama’s War,” it most certainly is not. The very cadre of Neo-Conservatives that engineered the last decade of debilitating global war at the expense of American blood and treasure have been quietly cheerleading the expansion of NATO’s intervention in Libya. This can be seen in unequivocal terms in a letter written to US House Republicans imploring them to end their resistance to the current, unconstitutional war, and instead discard the UNSC resolution and give even more support for the terrorists seizing Libya on their behalf. Paul Wolfowitz, Elliott Abrams, Max Boot, Frederick Kagan, Karl Rove, Ellen Bork, Robert Kagan, Liz Cheney, William Kristol, Dan Senor, and James Woolsey are just some of the names of individuals that affixed their signatures at the bottom of this letter. Quite clearly, this is not exclusively “Obama’s War,” rather one engineered and promoted by the Fortune 500 banks and corporations that include both Obama and America’s most notorious Neo-Conservatives as loyal servants.

If ever there was a time for our military, not just the rank and file, but the officers that lead them and whose hands young fighting men put their lives into, to recall their oath given to the US Constitution and their duty to protect and defend their nation and their people, it would be now. If ever there was a time to recognize our self-proclaimed leadership, crutching their legitimacy along with the facade of “democracy” as the self-serving egregious traitors they are – the time is now. And when the people’s faith in their government falters, let us be vigilant against pretend reformers. Let us make sure military men stepping forward to rectify our nation’s slide into the surreal aren’t corporate-fascist serving Council on Foreign Relations members likeGeneral Stanley McChrystal or General David Petraeus, both of whom are guilty of helping to foist this facade upon the American people at tragic costs to us all.

For the average man or woman in America, now would be a good time to start putting these corporations and banks out of business. Boycott and replace them systematically, day to day, little by little. America has misplaced their faith in these world-spanning corporations and have traded their independence and self-reliance in for the illusion of convenience. It is time to take that independence back. It is also time to vote each and every incumbent out of office that has served these agendas and promoted this war, now exposed as an absolute hoax. Those like John McCain, Lindsey Graham, and Joe Lieberman come particularly to mind. Finally, it is time to start getting organized as a community. Reach out to your neighbors, start a marksmanship club, help each other with starting a garden, and start standing up for one another when this corrupt, parasitic system comes searching for sustenance to continue fueling its dark deeds. By exercising each and every one of your Constitutional rights, collectively as a community and on a daily basis, you ensure their vigor in standing up against tyranny of all kinds.

Now is the time, this far and no further – if not for ourselves, for the thousands of Americans that shed their lives in the belief they did so for a higher cause and whose memories are now being defiled by the despicable actions of Wall Street and London, and the degenerate army of sycophants that serve them, from Europe to North America, from Israel’s leadership, to the corporate oligarchs that manipulate the people of Australia. This evil empire has reached an intolerable height.

For a list of the corporate-financier interests that truly run Western society please see, “Naming Names.” For more information on self-sufficiency please see, “The Globalsits’ Worst Nightmare.” To learn more about why and how to boycott the corporate-financiers that dominate our lives, please see, “Destroy the Globalists.”


History is constantly rewritten, and has many perspectives.

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There are many schools of thought within history:

There is Marxist history.

Revisionist history.

History from a Third World perspective.

Feminist perspective of history.

Peoples history.

Diplomatic history.

Military history.

and pseudo history.

Some academics in the USA, and thus in the State Department believe that World War II was caused by Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.

They reason that if these two dictatorships had not signed a Pact, "Molotov-Ribbentrop pact – the 1939 non-aggression agreement between the Soviet Union and Germany" and thereafter carved up Europe within respective spheres, which freed the Nazi's to attack France a year later, with 80% of its forces then there would not have been a 6 year WWII naturally or inevitably there after.

This is correct analysis to a certain extent, but only to a limited partisan superficial extent.
There are many layers to World War II.....the narrative of WWII cannot merely be interpreted in terms of 6th grade level history consisting of dictators and the subsequent actions of their armies, at significant dates. There are many phases and time lines going back many years which ultimately created the condition for WWII.

By grasping this holistic detail we may be able to avoid future conflicts on such grand scale.

The Russians in defense of Stalin state that the Western powers also appeased Nazi Germany, with the Munich Agreement of 1938 between Hitler and Chamberlain acting for the UK and France. The Russian's reason that the Munich agreement exposed the weakness of the Western powers which only encouraged Hitler to invade more countries thereafter (Bohemia and Poland, just a few weeks and months after the Munich betrayal). They further contend that Stalin agreed to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact only out of sheer necessity to avoid an early war and invasion by Germany, which Stalin falsely felt was more powerful than the Soviet Union. Given the 1937 purges of the Soviet armed forces senior staff, and the Soviets poor performance against the tiny Finnish military in 1940, perhaps Stalin was right strategically.

Finally the Russians content that since nearly 30 million Soviets lost their lives in the "Great Patriotic War" of 1941--1945, and the Soviet Union did bulk of the fighting smashing 505 German divisions, that this alone gives the Soviet Union an across the board moral high ground which should not be challenged by cruelly insinuating that somehow the Soviet Union set the stage for WWII with Nazi Germany.

The great achievement of the Soviet people, and their sacrifices between 1941-45, however does not answer who actually caused WWII. Even though most history books say its Hitler. But I prefer not to accredit Hitler with such enormous super human achievements to a man who never held down a normal 9-5 job in a race and nation which worshiped the work ethos, a man who was a "stray dog" wandering the streets of Munich penniless, looking for gay lovers, and rejected by the German Postal Service reportedly because of his low IQ, save for his skills in Art and Oratory/rabble rousing after considerable coaching.

In reality great wars that last six years, and kill sixty million people and consume the entire world for the first time, don't begin just like that with MERE DIPLOMATIC agreements between two dictatorships at the very inception of war. That's too simplistic and obvious an explanation. There must be deeper causes for such wars going back many many years, which holistically explain such a catastrophe when it actually did take place between 1939--1945.

For the USA naturally, sections of its elite want to embellish the role of the USA viz other powers, especially Nazi Germany conquered and subsequently ruled by the USA after 1945, and the Soviet Union which through the Cold War became an adversary against which they achieved victory only in 1991. Naturally to curry favor with the Baltic Republics both Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union must be blamed for WWII. But the reality is very different of course.

Wars happen, and they have been taking place since time immemorial. Wars are the result of organized society seeking certain strategic advantage over another society in rather basic terms. However what must be borne in mind is that in studying war with kings, generals, dates and battles very often the REAL ACTORS, and the REAL MOTIVATIONS are lost in the narrative of especially more complex society that has existed since the 19th century, and the birth of an organized bureaucratic nation state.

For me WWII began in the 19th century with the rise of the Jewish Rothschild banking family based in London and most of Europe. For this banking clan war is profitable. Indeed that is how they began their business, lending money to German Princes waging war, as a pose to their traditional business of mere money lending to fellow Jews and some gentiles in the Jewish ghetto's of Frankfurt. They discovered that lending huge sums of money to States at war was very profitable, since the desperate state seeking money at any cost would incur inordinate debt which would always be paid, since States on the whole couldn't declare themselves bankrupt and dissolve/absolve themselves of any past liabilities.

The Rothschilds of London thus together with other Jewish banking families, especially in the 19th century in Europe and North America attempted to manage wars for the profit which they gained. To be specific the Rothschilds conspired to initiate wars and close wars on their terms in the 19th century in Europe and North America, using a huge army of agents. This Rothschild "scam" then went global with WWI which killed 9 million people, and WWII which killed 60 million people. Rothschild agents are thus found in ALL sides of such conflicts managing the "scam".

Rothschild agents were well positioned in Imperial Germany, as they were in Imperial Russia, as they were in the Hapsburg Empire, the Ottoman empire (Jewish Young Turks), as they were in the French empire, the British empire and of course the USA.

It is this shadowy Jewish banking organization with its agents which initiated WWI and WWII.




Specifically in relation to WWII, the build up to that eventual tragedy began in 1919 when the Jewish bankers dominated and initiated the Versailles Treaty of 1919. Then the Jews picked up Hitler the "Stray Dog of Munich" and funded the Nazi Party into power within 13 years, just as the International Jews funded the Italian Fascists into power in 1923, and the Jewish Bolsheviks into power in 1918. Once these extremist dictatorships were in power International Jewish Capital funded their strategic Industrial programs, especially the Soviet Union, and specifically their rearmament programs........The Nazis upon the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941 were astonished by the sheer quantity and quality of Soviet arms.











AND of course the SOVIET UNION:



History is constantly revised. Indeed in Russia now there is a great battle to revise especially Soviet history in a better light, to the detriment of pure truth and facing up to the tragedy of the PAST.

I pray for the day when ordinary Russians can see a media which shows them the reality of truth about their past, especially between 1918--1991. This will enable them to better grasp the fundamental problems of the state and the challenges for the future of their tragic and yet wonderful nation.



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US blames USSR in WW2 history re-write

By RT.com

The US embassy in Estonia has issued a statement claiming the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were both responsible for starting World War II.

The statement was issued on the 72nd anniversary of the so called Molotov-Ribbentrop pact – the 1939 non-aggression agreement between the Soviet Union and Germany. In the paper, the US diplomats claim that “Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union ensured that Europe and the entire world were placed on an inexorable path to war”. It also made reference to the secret protocols of the pact “that carved up Europe into respective spheres of influence”.

The statement goes on to praise Estonian policy for remembering those “dark years of occupation” and expresses solidarity with the Estonian nation.

Russia issued no official comments on the statement, but in the past Russian officials had repeatedly condemned attempts to re-write history and present the Second World War as a result of a conspiracy between Stalin and Hitler. In 2009, on the anniversary of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, the Russian Foreign Ministry said that “the attempts to shoulder the responsibility for the war either on Hitler’s Germany nurturing aggressive plans, or on the Soviet Union only acting defensively, are unacceptable, blasphemous, and anti-historic to the core.”

The ministry also added that the assumptions regarding a conspiracy between Stalin and Hitler, or attempts to conflate Communism with Nazism, made no sense and disparaged the millions of Soviet citizens who were killed in the struggle against Nazism.

Russia declared the Molotov-Ribbentrop protocol invalid in 1989 and the document received a negative assessment in the Russian parliament. In August 2009, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin condemned the pact as immoral in an interview with the Polish media, but in the same interview likened it to the Munich Agreement of 1938 which, unlike the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact in Russia, has not yet been denounced by the parliaments of the countries that signed it.

It should also be noted that authorities in Estonia and other Baltic states have repeatedly condemned the Soviet Occupation, but show dangerous leniency towards those who honor the memory of Nazi collaborators. In August this year, Estonia again hosted the international competition Erna Retk, which is named after a Nazi international subversive group in Hitler’s Abwehr intelligence service.Erna Retk operated in the rear of the Soviet army in 1941. Russia has condemned the event as an act that glorified the Nazis.


28.8.11

"al-CIA-duh" in Libya.

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The overthrow of Gaddafi's regime in Tripoli took place using Libyan Islamists drawn from the East of the country, Cyrenia, and Western Special Forces guiding and assisting the rebels, and finally Western Airpower.


So a guerrilla war very much like Iraq will continue against the Western occupation, which unlike Iraq will not have boots on the ground in the same numbers.
In the Iraq invasion there were, "the United States (148,000), United Kingdom (45,000), Australia (2,000), and Poland (194)".....195,000 Western troops on the ground after the USA bribed Saddam's head of Intelligence, and most of the Generals not to resist the invasion.

The truncated Iraqi military of 400,000 thus surrendered without a fight. The Iraqi resistence subsequently was provided by the SUNNI fedayeen or peoples militia representing about 20% of the population, and gradually joined by ex-military personnel who longer had a job, or horrified by the treatment of the dominant SUNNI's by the Americans, or the treatment of their country generally by the occupiers.


In Libya, with a population one fourth of Iraq, and a small military force thus posed a far lessor challenge for the USA with its colonial ambitions, even though Gaddafi ironically was FAR MORE popular with his people, than CIA sadistic Saddam with his mass graves, endless wars against neighbors encouraged by the USA....and 30 odd palaces, whilst his people died around him from years of Western USA driven sanctions.


Gaddafi according to some sources made the mistake of letting his guard down against the West, especially after 2003.


He placed $110 billion of his nations assets in Western banks. This triggered the "Theft mentality" of Jewish banks in the West who saw an opportunity to steal the countries money. Ditto with the Shah of Iran and his petro-$ in Western Jewish banks.


He allowed greater cooperation and training between his forces and those of the West, thus giving the USA the opportunity to recruit spies within his security apparatus.


Gaddafi failed to develop a credible conventional military machine, which could effectively fight the Western neo-colonialists. Thus Gaddafi was overthrown by a rabble rag tag force of "al-CIA-duh" affiliated Islamists of how many....1000?....2000? and Western Special ops units.....working with Western airpower.


Gaddafi allowed his sons, educated in London/West to drive his key State policies.

Libya will now descend into chaos, slaughter and destruction al la Iraq.

Gaddafi, the dictator who united the nation and who was popular is no longer running the country, but will be fighting for it from the margins.


Mubarak under Egypt might have intervened to protect Gaddafi from the Western intervention, BUT USA bought the Egyptian generals who themselves toppled Mubarak have been absolutely silent in the face of naked Western colonial aggression against Libya, their neighbor.


These Egyptian Generals deserve the worst, betraying their leader, their country...and now silent whilst Western colonial forces trample and destroy their neighbor.

If today Libya, why not Egypt tomorrow after Syria?


Is Libya run by "al-CIA-duh" terrorists, with full diplomatic cooperation with Israel, and Western Special Ops troops on the ground good for Egypt? Good for the whole North Africa neighborhood?


What kind of worthless gay donkeys and dogs are the Egyptian Generals? Why did Algeria remain passive and silent?


And the Saudis, the Jew Saudis....what can one say about them?
























Arab countries silently obediently queuing to be slaughtered by Western Colonial forces, one by one.

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U.S. And NATO Funded Libyan Rebels Free Al Qaeda Prisoners As Americans Continue To Lose Freedoms Over Same ‘Terrorists’


The Intel Hub

CNN has reported that hundreds of supporters of Al Qaeda have been freed by U.S. and NATO funded Libyan Rebels.

Up to 600 prisoners that were released are believed to be pro Al Qaeda militants.

As The Intel Hub and many others in the alternative media have reported for months, the Libyan Rebels are actually Al Qaeda connected war criminals funded and run with the help of the CIA.

In fact, on August 22nd, former U.S. asset in Libya Susan Lindauer destroyed the NATO and corporate media lies in a 2 hour transmission on The Bob Tuskin Radio Show.

While Americans continue to lose more and more freedoms all in the name of protecting us from Al Qaeda, the CIA and NATO have openly funded our supposed enemies who in turn have released 600 Al Qaeda prisoners and are Al Qaeda sympathizers themselves.

This was the plan from the beginning. Pretend the war in Libya is for humanitarian issues, bomb the hell out of the civilian population in the name of freedom, and then fear monger over Al Qaeda taking over in Libya!


27.8.11

Who is going to elect the Lokpal members, and how will it be effectively monitered against abuse of power and privilege?

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The answer to the above questions seems to be a lazy and a rather desperate"don't care, just as long as the Lokpal tackles "CORRUPTION".......or as the case with many Anna supporters, they don't have a clue what the Jan Lokpal is about even vaguely.

Can't run a country the size of India on sloganism or mob rule.

Presumably a simple pamphlet has been produced in simple jargon free Hindi to articulate and highlight the main points of the Jan Lokpal, AND on the reverse side the governments version...and why its wrong. That would be a good start.......5 annas a copy or even free.

Just because Ibrahim Dawood has the money and under world organization, he should not be able to use a local Indian front to mobilize a rent a crowd in front of parliament to give greater tax hikes to Goondawood, through which he launders his money.

Thats a rather stark and unfair example you might say.......but the principle and means of getting ones demand is the same. Hitler used mob tactics as did Mussolini under the cover of populism.....until they became absolute dictators with ALL powers of the state in their single hands.

How can we be sure that the Jan Lokpal is not a surreptitious eventual attempt to impose a dictatorship in India, through the back door? How can we be sure that Anna Hazare and his ilk don't launch populist crusades against not just corruption, but ALL OTHER ISSUES that would normally be the purview of the elected government? What solid verifiable guarantees do we have against this? Which constituency elected Anna Hazare to speak for India, besides the TOI....A center-right rag?

But let us agree that corruption is rampant in India, and that the problem requires an institutional approach. The fact that the Lokpal bill has been stalled for 43 years since 1968 may be an indication of the fear the Lokpal Bill engenders in corrupt officials, or simply that nobody can agree on its proper functioning (its a tricky complicated issue after all......issues that can't be wished away)

But let us for the sake of argument go for the Jan Lokpal Bill of Anna Hazare. It is bold and revolutionary. If it however does create constitutional problems a future elected government can presumably change it, and make persuasive arguments to change it through the mechanisms within government. The Jan Lokpal Bill is thus not set in stone.

Governance and government may be weak and ineffective in India, but nobody can dispute the sheer "power' of the Central government. It has at its disposal the police, the paramilitary, the military, the spooks, the courts to an extent, unlimited taxpayer and greasy funds from various sources, the media and the "ruling elite" who institutionalize their power through the Central government (The central government is a representation of the elite in India at the end of the day beyond the "aam admi" BS). Given such a huge leverage, the Jan Lokpal Bill is thus possibly a minuscule challenge to the status quo of "Power" in India, especially in a country where law and law enforcement is so weak.

Having read the Jan Lokpal proposals briefly, superficially,... my only counter-proposal is that the SC be vested with the sole power of appointing the Lokpal members. "Members will be appointed by (i)judges, (ii)Indian Administrative Service officers with a clean record,(iii) private citizens and (iv) constitutional authorities through a transparent and participatory process." sounds to too vague and complicated......the language is politically correct, but the devil is in the details. That devil can be overcome by simply giving the responsibility to the SC, who choose a team of about 20 people who serve 5 year terms from:

1. Civil Society making up at least half the members who have participated in anti-corruption activism for at least 10 years, and thus have proven themselves worthy through various SPECIFIC cases of anti-corruption.
CBI national security background checks required.

2. You need at least two senior chartered accountants who understand the mechanics of corruption and how funds are funneled and disappeared, or laundered. The Lokpal should focus strategically on big corruption cases, and let the States Lokpals deal with local corruption.

3. You need some senior lawyers, judges who are familiar with corruption cases.

4. You need retired police officers who are familiar with corrupt criminals.....they dealt with such cases.

5. You need some "Administrative & Constitutional Law" professors who have studied and written articles on corruption.

6. The 20 member body should represent ALL India from all corners of the country; ALL castes; all religions fairly.

7. It should have an annual budget of $100 million a year to freely pursue cases, fully independent of the government, based away from Delhi.

8. It should have a staff of about 500 people, recruited by the 20 Lokpal members, AND not drawn from the Indian Civil Service.


The TOI blog posted below by TK Arun is thus a cautionary tale that should be borne in mind, BUT that the government should go ahead and relent on the fundamentals of the Jan Lokpal Bill AFTER negotiations, and AFTER the Lokapl Bill has been discussed in the relevant parliamentary committees properly.

Can't have, " Anna Hazare has proposal, ManMohan Singh hands enacted Bill for Anna Hazare to sign" pronto or else.......even though the idea and motivations behind it may be good.
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Do not yield to mobocracy, the Lokpal cannot end corruption



Barring the very corrupt, everyone would support the ongoing campaign against corruption. But not either Team Anna's specific solution or the means it employs. In fact, there is every reason to oppose and condemn the move to blackmail the government into conceding a very flawed demand.

A monolithic, all-powerful body that would hold every functionary of the state including the judiciary to account, and investigate and prosecute them if necessary, while itself being accountable to no one except to the noble conscience of its exalted members — this, in effect, is Jan Lokpal. If the good Lord delivers on his promise to sambhavami yuge yuge and takes birth as the Lokpal, this might work. But, otherwise, it is completely hostile to democracy, in spirit, principle and practice.

In a democracy, a system of checks and balances is supposed to guard against concentration of power. In India, at present, the judiciary is accountable to no one, and the executive, which controls the administrative machinery that runs the country, is accountable to the legislature.

The legislature is accountable to the people who elect its members. Administrative personnel are supposed to be accountable, as to both performance and ethics, through their chain of command, to the political executive. In practice, the administrative machinery is accountable to no one. This absence of accountability has spawned poor governance and corruption.

But how come the administrative machinery is not accountable to anyone? If the elected offices, manned by people's representatives, are effective, governance would stream into and light up our lives as naturally as sunlight does. But our elected offices are compromised. They make use of the administrative machinery to filch official funds, sell government patronage and extort money from the public. When administration is thus suborned, only a minority of civil servants stay ethical or even work.

What makes our elected offices so compromised? This is the central question to be addressed in the battle against corruption. Without clarity on this, the battle cannot succeed.

The politics of the world's largest democracy runs on the proceeds of corruption. All political parties finance their activity through funds that are amassed by loot of the exchequer, sale of patronage and plain extortion. Since political funding is an objective necessity, and the accepted form of funding is corruption, elected offices are compromised.

Even if individual functionaries are not corrupt, the parties they represent run on corruption and are compromised in this fashion. This is true of all parties today. Corruption is not just endemic, but also systemic. Reform of political funding is the key to ending corruption.

All political expenditure should be declared and made contestable by political rivals and watchdog bodies. All validated expenditure must be accounted for, and all sources of financing, fully transparent. Once parties and politicians have transparent funding, they will not need to be corrupt. Corruption will cease to be systemic. Only then can the political executive hold the administrative machinery to account for delivery of governance and ethical conduct.

A Lokpal only offers a layer of deterrence. This is like relying on tough inspection alone to check automobile pollution, without making cleaner fuel available, minus lead and sulphur, and without an engine technology upgrade. Similarly, without institutional reform of political funding, corruption cannot be tackled. Yes, we need deterrence as well. A strong Lokpal is essential. The entire political executive, including the PM, and senior civil servants should come within its purview.

But neither the judiciary nor Parliament can be accountable to this ombudsman. The judiciary must be independent of the Lokpal to keep a check on it. And Parliament's accountability should be directly to the people. If MPs misbehave, voters must have the right to recall them.

It is entirely justified for a popular agitation to press for reform of laws and institutions. So, the Anna mobilisation is most welcome. But not its disdain for the institutions and procedures of democracy or its demand to overturn the system of checks and balances that makes democracy work.

If it is sufficient to mobilise a million people in Delhi, leave alone the lakh Anna has brought out, to demand that Mayawati or Narendra Modi should be made prime minister, they can do it, easily. But that would not be right. What is right matters when it comes to making laws and institutions.

Its size, however large, or zeal, however self-righteous, cannot make a mob the people of India. The people of India take decisions through Parliament and cannot be railroaded by a mob.

26.8.11

On Que!

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So here it is ......the USA telling India that China is a threat to India, after ALL the years of the Pentagon sending billions of $ worth of arms from 1954--2011 to Pakistan, subsequently and inevitably used against India in 3 wars since.

A lot of trouble for India comes from Pakistan. Pakistan is a failed state run by the USA.

It would help India if the USA didn't give ANY military aid to Pakistan, first and foremost, before advising India directly and indirectly to take on China as a regional rival.

It would help India ENORMOUSLY, if the USA didn't destabilize Pakistan using the Pakistan military. A destabilized Pakistan is never good for India.

It would help India SIGNIFICANTLY if credible stable civilian governments were backed into power in Islamabad by the USA, rather than supporting comical, inept, corrupt puppet regimes like Zardari bhen's who as I understand it has been advised by the USA embassy to visit every country in the world save India.

Taking a tough stand against China is fine within reasonable precautionary strategic parameters, if you have the capacity and ability to do it. You don't need the Pentagon to tell YOU what is best for India's defense and strategic policy. On the other hand, whilst the pro-USA Times of India sells its Pentagon Power Point Presentation, it never the less also points out India's weakness viz China military power.

A mere 39 ordinance factories only; 70% imported arms which will require constant foreign supplied maintenance & spares........in a war against a super-power foe thats going to be tough; a professional military that is not geared for long wars......for several years of hard knuckle duster slogging.....the 49,000 serving officers will be finished in short order given India's military philosophy; no credible numbers of mountain artillery, mortars, AA, SAM's, lt SAM's, helicopters......infrastructure/roads......bunkers......arms depots in the vicinity.....no standard FGA made in India in the 1000's.

Basic war making stuff.

Given these weaknesses, it is better for India not to confront China militarily......but instead try co-existence. We must not repeat the mistake of Nehru, who shunned Chinese efforts at negotiating Askai Chin and other issues, but instead blustered against China, AND through Krishna Menon undermined the Indian military AS WELL, until it was too late. After the war, Menon resigned, and lost his parliamentary seat, and Nehru the "non-aligned leader of the world" had the wind taken out of him.......ie he never looked happy after that fateful 2 weeks incident.

The USA under Kennedy looked sympathetic despite fervent appeals for help from Nehru, provided no help. It was the Soviet Union which quietly told China to cease their successful military campaign.

Let us be clear and careful on such issues.

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Pentagon warns India of Chinese build-up


By Rajat Pandit of the Times of India (NY)

The Red Dragon is spreading its wings and sharpening its claws at a rapid clip. From deadly long-range nuclear missiles and an expanding blue-water Navy to potent space and cyber warfare abilities, China will have a "modern" military capable of prolonged high-intensity combat operations by the end of this decade.

Pentagon's latest assessment of the expanding military might of China, released on Thursday, paints a scary picture of the frenetic pace at which the 2.25-million People's Liberation Army (PLA) is being modernized, in the backdrop of uncertainty over its long-term intentions.

Though the US report holds that thwarting any American intervention in Taiwan remains PLA's "main strategic direction", New Delhi can ill-afford to ignore China's increasing trans-border military capabilities, its assiduous strategic encircling of India and hardening posture in the border talks.

The report itself notes PLA has replaced its older liquid-fuelled, nuclear-capable CSS-2 intermediate range ballistic missiles with the "more advanced" solid-fuelled CSS-5 medium-range ballistic missile systems along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) to "strengthen its deterrent posture" against India.

"A high level of mistrust continues to strain the bilateral relationship...India remains concerned over China's close military relationship with Pakistan and Beijing's growing footprint in the Indian Ocean, Central Asia and Africa," says the report.

All this might not startle the Indian defence establishment, which also keeps a close tab on PLA, but the fact remains that China can now move over 30 divisions (each with over 15,000 soldiers) to the LAC within a month to outnumber Indian forces by at least three-is-to-one due to the huge military infrastructure build-up in Tibet.

India has taken some steps in recent years to counter China, which range from planning a new mountain strike corps (over 35,000 combat troops) in 2012-2017 after raising two new divisions (over 15,000 soldiers each) in Nagaland and Assam to deploying Sukhoi-30MKI fighters, missile batteries and spy drones in the North-East, as reported by TOI earlier.

But a lot more clearly needs to be done. China, after all, is fast steaming ahead with its projects to build its first stealth fighter, the J-20, and multiple aircraft carriers after its first, the 67,500-tonne Varyag acquired surreptitiously from Ukraine, began sea trials recently.

Moreover, China has a hyper-active ballistic and cruise missile programme to add to its already huge nuclear arsenal. They include missiles like the DF-21D ballistic missile to kill aircraft carriers or large ships over 1,500-km away, the road-mobile DF-31A capable of hitting targets 11,200-km away, and the JL-2 submarine-launched ballistic missile with a reach beyond 7,200-km. "China's nuclear arsenal currently consists of 55-65 ICBMs (intercontinental ballistic missiles), apart from (5-20) IRBMs, (75-100) MRBMs and (1,000-1,200) SRBMs," says the Pentagon report.

China, of course, also helps Pakistan to boost its military capabilities, with the clear intention to bog down India in South Asia. Pakistan remains China's primary customer for weapons, with sales ranging from JF-17 and F-7 fighters, F-22P frigates and early warning and control aircraft, tanks and missiles, says the report.




The Secret Jewish government that runs Russia.

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JEWISH CONTROL OF RUSSIA? by aangirfan

Putin

On 6 September 2010, Russia and Israel signed an agreement on military cooperation.

When we were in Greek Cyprus we noted the presence of a number of Russian millionaires with the most expensive cars you can imagine.

When we were in Italy we also sighted millionaire Russians.

Is Russia a Mafia state and is it close friends with Israel?

It is not just the UK security services which have strong links to Israel (THE CLASSIC SEX SCANDAL), it is also the Russian security services.

The KGB and Mossad used to share their secrets.

Marc Rich is Jewish.

According to Newsmax (Marc Rich Helped KGB Create Hidden Government,), 31 March 2001:

"Marc Rich, the most-wanted fugitive pardoned by former President Clinton, was a key figure in the Communist Party and the KGB's creation of an underground government that survived the break-up of the Soviet Union and still rules Russia today behind the scenes."

Medvedev has Jewish origins?

What are we to make of Russian prime minister Putin and Russian president Medvedev?

Medvedev's "maternal grandfather's first name was Veniamin - similar to the Hebrew Binyamin (Benjamin) - while his family name, Shaposhnikov, is sometimes a Jewish name." (Rumors that Putin's successor is Jewish.)

"Medvedev will be wonderful for the Jews," just as Putin was, declared Israeli-Russian businessman Lev Leviev, who heads the Federation of Jewish Communities of Russia. (Rumors that Putin's successor is Jewish.)

Reportedly, Stalin was Jewish and had Jewish mistresses. Reportedly, his top spy was Victor Rothschild.

In November 2009, Russian President Dimitry Medvedev told a visiting delegation from the European Jewish Congress that the Iranian threat is very real, as are the threats posed by North Korea and Pakistan, and should be treated seriously. (Medvedev to European Jewish Congress: Iran threat very real ...)

According to a western diplomat: "Russia's main problem ... is that an unholy nexus of politics, big business and organised crime still dominates the ruling class." (Putin legacy - Telegraph )

Mogilevich is Jewish

Reportedly, Putin Dared To Call The Bluff Of The Global Jewish Mafia.

In 2008, "according to Russian media reports, Mogilevich, a Ukrainian business tycoon and Mafia godfather, was arrested in a Moscow shopping center. (Die Welt, 26 Jan 2008, p. 11.)...

"Semion Mogilevich, mass murderer and global swindler, has officially been on the 'wanted' list for decades, but he enjoyed the protection of the most powerful government ministries in the world.

"This was especially true where the BND: Federal German Intelligence Agency was concerned...

"According to the ZDF German Television magazine 'Kennzeichnen D' (1 Sep 1999), Semion Mogilevich, the presumed godfather of the largest Russian crime syndicate, who has been named who in connection with billions swindled by the Yeltsin Clan, enjoys protection at the highest levels in all Europe.."

Mogilevich was arrested in Moscow on January 24, 2008, for suspected tax evasion.[25] [26]

He was released on July 24, 2009.

The Russian interior ministry stated that the charges against him "are not of a particularly grave nature."[27][28]

Beria was Jewish. "Beria was noted for having his bodyguards kidnap young schoolgirls so that he could rape them in his Lubyanka office, which doubled as a torture chamber."

General Leonid Ivashov is a former joint chief of staff of the Russian army.

On 28 September 2010, at voltairenet.org/en, Ivashov suggests that Medvedev has opted for the US-Israeli camp.

("In the Interests of Israel": Why Russia will not sell the S-300 Air Defense System to Iran)

According to Ivashov:

1. On September 22 2010, it was announced that Russia will not sell the S-300 air defense system to Iran.

2. This defence system is a purely defensive system.

3. The refusal to supply the S-300 complexes to Iran clearly hurts Russia's political and economic interests.

4. Tehran proposed a number of times to turn the Middle East into a nuclear-free zone.

5. Igor Yurgens, chief of a well-connected Russian thinktank, spoke on 28 July 2010 about the possibility of integrating Russia into NATO.

He reported that in the nearest future Russia would ­be importing at least 30% of the weapons and equipment for its army from Israel and NATO countries.

6. General V. Dvorkin paid a visit to Israel a short time ago. He urged US senators to OK launching an attack against Iran.

Russian girl, from http://www.russian-victories.ru/

7. On 6 September 2010, the defense ministers of Russia and Israel A. Serdyukov and Ehud Barak signed a first-ever agreement on military cooperation between the two countries.

This includes sharing intelligence and could mean that Russia spies on Turkey and passes information onto Israel.

8. Russia seems to be turning a blind eye to Israel's role in the attack on its troops in South Ossetia.

Israel assisted in organizing and launching the August 2008 unprovoked Georgian aggression against South Ossetia and the deadly raid against the Russian peacekeepers deployed in the republic.

9. Russia has a problem with its Moslem population in the Caucasus. (This may be being stirred up by the CIA and Mossad - Aangirfan)

10. There is a fear that Russia will join the "military escapades of the Anglo-Saxons and of the Israeli Zionist leadership in the name of the shadowy financial oligarchy’s global dominance."

Putin, from http://www.russian-victories.ru/

Anonymous added this comment:

"Medvedev might be leaning towards the Zionazis but dont count out the formidable chess player Vladimir Putin and remember that he won a stunning popularity because he threw the Jewish oligarch-mafia crooks behind bars.

"He also vapourized the Israeli base and their local infrastructure intended for an imminent attack on Iran, in Georgia. (IDF participated directly in the Georgian suprise attack on Russian peace keepers)

"The fact that Iranian critisism of the move is close to zero speaks something too and besides, Syria (host to the Russian mediterrian base at Tartus), which is a close ally of Iran, will get a similar defence system..."

Yuri Andropov, former leader of the USSR, was Jewish.

Winston Churchill wrote that: "in the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is astonishing.

"And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses...

"The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated..."

Researcher Wayne McGuire of Harvard University writes: "50% of the communist terrorist vanguard in the south and west of Russia was comprised of Jews." (http://www.russians.org/communist.html)

The Siberian novelist Valentin Rasputin wrote in 1990: "I think today the Jews here in Russia should feel responsible for the sin of having carried out the revolution and for the shape it took.

"They should feel responsible for the terror - for the terror that existed during the revolution and especially after the revolution ... their guilt is great.

"They perpetrated the relentless campaign against the peasant class whose land was brutally expropriated by the state and who themselves were ruthlessly murdered."

Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's biographer wrote: "By the age of ten he had the cross ripped from his neck by jeering Pioneers and for over a year was held up to ridicule...

"Solzhenitsyn was, as a boy, exposed to students whose parents had an officially superior status.

"Most of the members of the Young Pioneers and Komsomol movements, at least in Rostov, were Jewish children..." (Michael Scammell, Solzhenitsyn: A Biography, p. 64).

According to the RNS wire service (reprinted in "The Christian News," Jan. 8, 1996, p. 2), "Some 200,000 (Christian) clergy, many crucified, scalped and otherwise tortured, were killed during the approximately 60 years of communist rule in the former Soviet Union, a Russian commission reported Monday (Nov. 27, 1995)...

"40,000 churches (were) destroyed in the period from 1922 to 1980..."

Russia's concentration camps and slave labor system were "staffed in its upper echelons by Jewish Communists."

Sixteen million ethnic Germans were forcibly expelled from Silesia, Moravia and the Volga at the end of the Second World War. Two million perished. 800,000 mostly Muslim Chechens were deported to Kazakhstan; a quarter of a million died enroute. 12% of the Baltic population was either deported to Siberia or executed. http://www.russians.org/communist.html

In the Bolshevik era, 52 percent of the membership of the Soviet communist party was Jewish, though Jews comprised only 1.8 percent of the total population (Stuart Kahan, The Wolf of the Kremlin, p. 81)

Source: http://www.russians.org/communist.html

Reportedly, Tito was the only non-Jewish dictator behind the Iron Curtain in the late 1940s. However, the Yugoslavian communist party sent massive arms shipments to Jewish fighters in Palestine in the 1940s.


USA's war against Russia.

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Most Russian leaders appointed through the secret Jewish government in Moscow (operating within the security apparatus as a Jewish state within a state), are obviously blind to the machinations of the JEWSA towards Russia, especially since 1991.

The rather naive simplistic OFFICIAL reasoning in Moscow is that the Cold War is over; Russia is a Democracy; Russia has adopted the advice of Washington's disaster capitalist economics; Russia no longer undertakes aggressive security operations against the USA; Most Russian's love MacDonalds and would like to emigrate to the USA if they could. And certainly played between 1991 to about 2005 by Putin down....... was that Russia was a slightly right-wing White, European, Christian power, whose leader after visiting GWB at his gay retreat in Texas were soul mates. Far right politics with a particular agenda we think is not a coincidental phenomenon in Russia, but Jew state led strategically as is the case in other Western countries.....with the pied piper being Likud Israel revving up the secret and not so secret Jew International network.

BUT of course the reality is very different.

The response of the Russian State with its 142 million people, $2.3 trillion economy and second most powerful military....and a still effective security has thus been rather weak against the aggressive policies of Washington against Russia.( Professor Stephan F Cohen, "The New American Cold War")

But given that Russian governments since 1991 have been run by the Jews as before, this would explain the perplexing confusion and inaction of the Russian state, as the JEWSA increasingly encroaches on Russia. Mongolia has an American puppet. Parts of Central Asia, and especially Uzbekistan do not want to join a Central Asian + Russia military alliance which would otherwise be beneficial given the situation of the world. The USA/Israel has used tiny Georgia against Russia militarily.......as it attempted to use the Ukraine, and Baltic States.....with of course missiles and NATO expansion.

Most obvious of these policy anomalies of Moscow is the case where Russia actually assists the NATO/American occupation forces in Afghanistan with logistics, just so that the Americans can flood Russia with massive quantities of Afghan heroine which causes significant harm to the Russian population (The heroin comes from Afghanistan....and harms many Russians, this is no conspiracy theory)..........AND EVEN BETTER, Brzezinski who HATES RUSSIA VEHEMENTLY has stated in his book in effect even though the USA was not in Afghanistan at the time of publishing, with boots on the ground, in "The Grand Chessboard" that Afghanistan can be used as a springboard of American military power to carve up EURASIA'S resources, which is the key to global supremacy......(Using Islamists to destabilize the region as a fifth column) and thus Check Russia and China's power in that region and in the wider world. Again this is no conspiracy......its been stated by American analysts, Russian analysts, Asian analysts......and bloggers, AFTER Brzezinski the Russian hater spelt it out against Russia.

What are we to make of comrade Putin's inaction over this clear American aggression from the USA since 1991, but instead where he actually helps them kill more Russians via Afghan Heroin? Or does he really think the Americans are in Afghanistan fighting the American created Taliban for ever, with drones? Is it naivety? Medvedev is Jewish, so his position on many issues are understandable, but Putin the ultra Russia nationalist who is aggressive, tough and intelligent about Russia's real strategic requirements? Or is it the case that he must follow the orders of the Jewish secret government in Moscow?

What Senator John McCain says (stalking horse...kite flying) is what many American governments have been doing against Russia for many decades since 1991 .......the Cold War never ended, but Russia weary after the fall of Communism, and optimistic for the future, falsely miscalculated the USA's true nature against Russia, guided by the secret Jewish government in Moscow.

Unfortunately RT.com coverage style is that of a slightly amused mature, superior adult (RT staff) who are talking about an irresponsible child.......so yes entertaining but nothing to think about.

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Democrazy: McMouth flies 'freedom' flag

By RT.com

US Senator and former presidential candidate John McCain has lashed out at Russia, saying it could be the next country to experience a Libya-style uprising.

­But Senator McCain has a very far-fetched outlook, believes RT's Washington correspondent Gayane Chichikyan.

McCain is sure that the Arab Spring will rage on and will make it to countries like China and Russia, which according to him “need democracy” just as Libya does.

At some point he even said that Libya has already achieved democracy, which is far from reality according to the situation on the ground.

Even as the National Transitional Council takes over in Tripoli, it is not the government chosen by the Libyan people. And many Libyans are outraged by the fact that foreign powers have essentially made this choice for them.

And looking back to Egypt, people there too do not seem to have achieved what they were fighting for.

As far as democracy is concerned in these countries, there are still a lot of questions, but according to McCain “It is all great and the fire of uprisings should move on to other countries.”

And according to him the “next stop” is Syria. “After Gaddafi it is Bashar Assad who is next to fall,” McCain said.

With his statements, Gayane says, McCain is seen as a mouthpiece for those forces in Washington who would want to see some countries, especially rich and strategically important ones, go upside down.

It is quite interesting that Senator McCain is pointing at some of the world’s richest countries and basically calling for revolutions in those countries, presuming that their “livelihood is so bad, that they need to rebel immediately.”

Meanwhile, polls show that most Americans are not happy with where their economy is going. And following McCain’s logic the question arises: does this mean that Americans too need to take to the streets and revolt?




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Pakistan China strategic relations.

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So the Punjabi Coolie Kuta's in Islamabad have sent a "Chosa Pudi" to China hoping that they will forgive and forget Pakistan's role in the Zing-yang riots.

How stupid.

Is it not better in the first place not to do ANY HARM to the best strategic ally of Pakistan for at least 40 years, rather than do the dirty for a few $ from gora sahib, and be exposed for it.

The long term solution to this, which has included attacks against Chinese workers working in strategic projects in Pakistan (biting the hand that feeds you as they say in English).......is:

1. Reign in Pakistan's vast security state, always looking for work...ANY WORK.

2. Make the ISI more accountable.

3. Investigate and reveal which government agencies were training and arming the terrorists in Sinkiang Province for the West, from Pakistan.

4. Reduce the number of Westerners in Pakistan, especially in sensitive areas such as the NWFP, Baluchistan and Gilgit/Baltitistan.

5. Lets have Chinese security based in Baluchistan, NWFP, places especially where China is carrying out strategic projects.

6. Conversely lets de-link Pakistan's security system from the West. If Pakistan has lost about $80 billion since 2001 economically by associating with Washington's GWoT, then from Pakistan's point of view it hasn't worked out too well...and counter measures and appraisal of the situation needs to be taken. Stock taking.

7. Pakistan is a failed state, and this implies that its institutions don't work, and thus are out of control. Can the budget of the military which unofficially consumes about 8% of the GDP be reduced, and the extra state resources which are freed directed towards civilian projects. CLEARLY the Pakistan military is not working for Pakistan's strategic interests, so why should they get a whopping 8 % share of the GDP..........what for? If they can't defend the sovereignty of the country; causes national humiliation and like a pagal kuta attacks Pakistan's best friend.

Absolutely stupid sending Shuja Pasha on a covert rescue mission to China after such a massive "strategic depth" blunder. The Sinkiang incident tells the Chinese that military run Pakistan is an insincere, unreliable ally.

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Pakistan, China ties are unique: Hina Rabbani Khar


Times of India.


Foreign minister Hina Rabbani Khar, who is on a visit to Beijing, has said Pakistan and China enjoy a unique relationship and dialogue was an ongoing process between the two countries.

(Pakistan has a "unique" relationship with the USA first and foremost, which provides up to $4 billion worth of military aid annually unofficially, AND in addition has thousands of security personnel in Pakistan, telling the Pakistanis what to do, and training their personnel....with the largest embassy in Islamabad right next to the Presidential palace. Most of the top brass of the Pakistani security have been trained in the USA, and security cooperation is still very extensive, and greater than the security cooperation with China CLEARLY.....given how often America's great and good visit Pakistan.

For Pakistan to have greater relations with China, the countries relationship with the USA would have to be reduced to a minimum, OTHERWISE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ISSUES ARISE.....where on the one hand China helps Pakistan generously, but on the other hand due to Washington's policy of using Islamists to destabilize various nations through "Operation Cyclone" .......against Iran, Afghanistan (Soviet Union) Central Asia, and China....since the late 1970's as per Brzezinski's "Grand Chess Board"....conflict of interests arises.

Pakistan just can't go on and on relying on good will begging missions in Saudi Arabia, The Gulf, Iran, China and the USA. It must choose sides.

My view is that Pakistan is better off relying 100% on China, and ditching the USA totally, AND improving relations with India in addition. Sooner the better.


"Chusa Pudi" with the nice smile and excellent Italian fashion sense, has no voice, and has no power to move such a significant strategic state policy.........India and China recognize this fact. In that sense Shah Mehmood Qureshi had greater integrity, standing and voice, but he was removed from his position on the orders of the USA government, and the puppet regime of Zardari complied meekly..."Acha Sahib."

Again "Chosa Pudi" is not going to be able to rectify the FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF Pakistan's FOREIGN POLICY....no matter how many times she smiles. The problem of a failed state; the problem of a powerful military which dictates FOREIGN and Security POLICY, though Hina thinks they don't.....and finally the Zardari government and the problems of having a Harijan Coolie Kuta billionaire crook running a puppet show government for the USA so that they are free to implement fundamentally anti-Pakistani state policy's which destabilizes and further fails the country.

After 10 years since 2001, or is it 60 years since 1951........this simple FACT, has not been grasped by our "strategic depth" generals)


Talking to media persons on arrival in Beijing, Khar said the leadership of both countries had invested immensely for the enhancement of existing strong bonds of friendship.

(China has given MORE since 1963, than Pakistan has ever offered to China. Dangerously some Harijan Coolie kuta's may think that China will just continue giving, so long as the military/ISI make the right 'strategic depth" calculations. This is the mentality of the beggar, and fraudulent scamster.

The imbalance of China/Pakistan relationship is partly due to China's need to contain India, especially after the 1962 war....BUT if India wisely rebuts Washington's insistence to act as an American poodle power which has been setup to fight China {aka Nazi Germany/Soviet Union 1941--1945, where both powers were built-up by NY/London ......per PROFESSOR ANTHONY C. SUTTON}........with an FTA between Chindia...greater diplomatic cooperation....India joins SCO.....greater security cooperation.....and China renounces it absurd claim for Arunchal Pradesh.....then Pakistan becomes less important for China, and most probably wise Indian strategic thinkers understand this simple fact. )

Khar arrived late Tuesday evening on a two-day visit at the invitation of her Chinese counterpart Yang Jiechi.

She said president Asif Ali Zardari was carrying forward the ties to new heights by frequently visiting China, reported Associated Press of Pakistan.

(Yes and he has been to the Gulf many times, and London...so what?)

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani also paid several visits, she added.

She pointed out that Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao's visit to Pakistan in December last year was historic as it helped in further enhancing the bilateral relations.

The foreign minister said the visit of Premier Wen played an important role in further deepening the the strong relationship.

Khar said: "The relationship strongly exists among peoples and governments of two countries and now we want to commensurate these ties with trade, economic and investment cooperation."

The foreign minister said China is one of the countries with which Pakistan has signed Free Trade Agreement (FTA).

She said the existing strong bonds of friendship between Pakistan and China was multi-faceted and covered all areas including defence, economic and trade ties.

"We have strategic and robust relations with China," she said.

At the Beijing Capital International Airport, Khar was received by Ambassador Masood Khan, senior diplomats from Pakistan Embassy and officials from the Chinese Foreign Ministry.

Earlier, talking to APP, Ambassador Masood Khan said that "this is a very important visit coming at a time when Pakistan and China enjoy enviable solidarity in all areas".

Khan pointed out that "the foreign minister's visit will help us consolidate our strong ties and steer them towards even deeper strategic and political engagement and more productive economic cooperation".

"It will be a meeting between time-tested and trusted friends and partners," Khan said, adding: "Naturally, regional and international situation will be reviewed by the two sides."

Symbolically too, Khan said, the visit is important because this will be Khar's first visit to China after assuming office.