May 1, 2013

China and India are two more GREAT ASIAN countries who have developed over 5000 years, peacefully and separately without ever challenging each other.

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China and India have developed separately as great civilizations over 5000 years without ever going to war. Chinese scholars, monks and diplomats traveled to India for knowledge about Buddhism, its arts, craft, inventions, government and trade. 

Chinese students attended the great ancient universities of Jagaddala, Lalitgiri, Munshiganj Vihara, Nalanda, Odantapuri, Puphagiri, Ratnagiri, Odisha, Shalban vihara, Somapura Mahavihara, Taxila, Udayagiri, Odisha, Vallabhi, Vikramaśīla University.

Indian monks spread Buddhism, marshal arts, steel making and gun powder amongst other skills to China. Indian merchants traded with China by sea from South India, and by land from North India.

The Globalized 20th century has been a different experience. It has affected all countries around the world to a greater or lessor degree. Sometimes negatively sometimes positively.

In 1949 China came under the rule of Marxist Communism through the guidance of Jewish New York bankers, and Soviet help. Whilst India from 1947 came under the rule of Macaulay Brown Sahibs (Anglicized Indians who thought they were British intellectually)...and the so called Socialist Congress party. A party set up by an Irish lady to represent the new Indian intellectual aspirations of greater opportunity for Indians within the Evil British Empire from the 19th century.
 
It was these two Alien elites who led the two great Asian nations to an unnecessary war of two weeks after years of Chinese aggression especially in the Ladakh area in 1950-1962. Where as the two nations had previously communicated with each other without problems for 5000 years peacefully.

On the other hand there has been no conflict between the two for 51 years, and China is India's biggest trading partner and the two conduct small symbolic military exercises together as a gesture of good will and cooperation.

The Chinese government is far more efficient, successful and less corrupt then the poorly performing no-colonial governments in Delhi.

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China has had problems with neighbors for centuries. To the North Hunnic tribes started the raid and trade routine from 700 BC, and Iranian tribes from Sinkiang province from 300 BC. With the Huns, the Chinese built the Great Wall, and continued trade with them, and exchanged beautiful Chinese maidens as peace offerings. With the Tocharians in Sinkiang, the Chinese invaded briefly and occupied, withdrew and reconquered in the 18th century.

China has been at war and border skirmishes with Goryeo, Silla and later Korean kingdoms, as well as Japan.

China has also been at war with Vietnam over the centuries.

In the 20th century after the Jewish funded Communists came to power in 1949, China went to war in Korea 1950--53. 

War against India 1962

The Chinese brawled with their Soviet counterparts 1969....during Mao's Red revolution Frenzy.


War with Vietnam 1979, and 1984.


In the case of the Kokang incident in Myanmar 2009, where ethnic Chinese were involved in the Eastern Shan state, and the Myanmar regime carried out a military operation which resulted in 37,000 refugees fleeing to China there was no reaction, save diplomatic exchanges.

Since Deng Xiaoping's liberalization reforms China has become a very successful country. For many Developing countries China is a great hope and salvation.  Unlike the corrupt Mafiaesque JEWSA, with its constant wars of aggression, exploitation, lies, genocide, war crimes, drug peddling...all accompanied by hypocritical affected plummy smooth talking, whilst that is going in its name.

China should take its number one position in the world, in a matter of a few years,...... peacefully. China's number one position should not be achieved through war and conquest against LEDC neighbors.

Indeed many Chinese politburo members sympathies with this long term goal of China. There have been many speeches given to this effect. 

According to Professor James Petras who writes: China upholds its policy of “harmonious development” and “non-interference in the internal affairs of other countries”

Let us hope this is true.

Xi Jinping is known to be a straight talker of sorts, and Washington can likely expect less diplomatic rhetoric from Beijing if it continues its current policy:


"Some foreigners with full bellies and nothing better to do engage in finger-pointing at us. First, China does not export revolution; second, it does not export famine and poverty; and third, it does not mess around with you. So what else is there to say?" 
Let us hope for the sake of the world, and global civilization that Comrade Li Jinping speaks the truth. 

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There seems to be an incursion by a squad of Chinese PLA soldiers from Tibet into Indian territory by at least 19 km, in Ladakh in North India. This has been highlighted by Indian sources, and as yet not reported in other media sites that I visit. I cannot be sure if this is true, or mere propaganda by enemies of the Indian Congress Party facing elections next year.(ie our government is weak and ineffectual; what we really need is a Modi type of leader)

Such an incursion could be a mistake, and the Chinese often stray into Indian territory as the Indo-China border is poorly earmarked, and there is considerable dispute as to where the TRUE border lies. The border was drawn up by the Imperial British in the 19th and the early part of the 20th century by agreement with Imperial Chinese governments.

The Communist government in China does not accept the current Indo-China border, and say they were accepted in China by an weak ineffectual illegitimate government coerced by an imperial power, 100 years ago. 

HOWEVER, the communist government respected the sovereignty of Hong Kong under British rule, which was leased to them until the end of the 20th century BY THE CHINESE EMPEROR, AND the Communist Chinese government did not use force to annex Macao, and Hong Kong...even though the Beijing government easily could have.

The Chinese PLA often regularly stray into Indian territory.

What is Chinese sovereign territory and what is not? Are the Tocharian and their mixed descendents in Sinkiang Chinese? Are the Tibetans Chinese? Are the Inner Mongolians Chinese? Were these places annexed by military conquest? If these people were given the vote would they remain in China or opt for independence?
 
 


China is a big country, and vast areas of it are worthless, deserts and mountains. The desertification process in China is taking place at an alarming rate from the Gobi into fertile agricultural land in central China. Why not spend vast sums of money, $100 billion a year making the deserts of China bloom with flowers, fruits and crops?

Why get excited about other peoples land, annexed to Tibet, or get erections about a few rocks in the Pacific ocean? 

China's destiny is far greater than this surely?

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IF IT IS TRUE...then India must eject the Chinese troops immediately (I thought no mans land between Chinese and Indian forces were a mere 100 or 200 meters). The Vietnamese ($300 Billion PPP GDP, and just 90 million people) dealt with them twice DECISIVELY in 1979, 1984, as did the Soviets...AND so can India.

Tall Sardarjis, of the Aryan disposition need to go to the Chinese camps without pointing guns, and then in the fashion of debt collectors confiscate everything.......and push the PLA troops out immediately from the area back to their LAC without resorting to a fire-fight. Obviously they need to take their guns with them, communications equipment, and live feed video cams.

Cameras can also be placed at a distance to monitor the situation for the benefit of HQ, and PM's office. Reserves backup UNITs need to be called up to the area.

Chinese speakers should be taken along as interpreters, and the approach towards the illegal squat should not be aggressive, but cautious and firm.

Plans for skirmishes AND a wider confrontation should be made.

India must disengaged all diplomatic exchange, and other exchanges with China  until the situation is resolved satisfactorily.

To do so otherwise will be inviting bigger problems for the future.


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http://mostaqueali.blogspot.com/2011/08/on-que.html