The ISI should be disbanded. The USA should stop funding it.

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Ideally the ISI which is at the center of the Pakistan military staffed by military officers should be disbanded.

The Pakistani military with its 800,000 unofficial military personnel, 304,000 paramilitary units, occupying a dominant position in the Pakistani economy is powerful enough, BUT the fact that such an organization also has an intelligence agency staffed by its officers and working primarily for the Pakistan military makes it ALL POWERFUL, ARROGANT, CRIMINAL and dangerous.

Has already been extensively blogged, the Pakistani military is at the center of the problem in Pakistan.

"They have been destroying Pakistan since the 1950's where through careful destabilization of the nascent political structure left by Jinnah they eventually came to power in 1958, though defacto in "power" by 1954, as any Pakistani insider will vouch.

Specifically it was done via the ISI, set up by the departing Raj in 1948 and Major General R. Cawthome, then Deputy Chief of Staff in the new Pakistan army and head of the ISI (1948-1956......more probably into 1959), seconded from the British Imperial Army. Think about that.....a General from the utterly evil British Rothschild empire RUNNING Pakistan's most sensitive state institution 12 years into independence. We NOW know that intelligence agencies are the primary tools of mischief and management by the globalist Zionists. What was he doing at that sensitive post, so many many years into "independence besides toasting crumpets and making Tetley tea?"

The USA should stop funding the ISI, if its serious.

The USA should stop working with the ISI, if its serious.

If the ISI is disbanded then Pakistan can begin to think about civilian government which are capable of controlling the ALL powerful military, and not the other way round.

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Pakistan army says New York Times report is a "direct attack"

By Reuters, and via Yahoo News and antiwar.com with Sheree Port Sardar.

Reports in the New York Times criticizing the Pakistan army and the powerful intelligence agency is a "direct attack" on Pakistan's security, the army spokesman said on Saturday.

Major General Athar Abbas, the Pakistan army's chief spokesman, repeatedly criticized the Times' reporting and said it was part of a calculated plan by "unnamed officials" to "weaken the state."

"This is a direct attack on our security organization and intelligence agencies," he told Reuters in a rare on-the-record in-person interview. "We consider ISI as a strategic intelligence organization, the first line of our defense."

The U.S.-Pakistan relationship has been on a downward spiral since last year, but the decline accelerated after the killing of two Pakistanis by a CIA contractor in Lahore in January and the U.S. raid to kill Osama bin Laden, which Pakistan complains it was not told about and says was a breach of its sovereignty.

Abbas was responding specifically to a July 8 editorial that said there was evidence of complicity by the ISI intelligence agency in sheltering bin Laden, of ties to the 2008 Mumbai attacks that killed 166 people and of involvement in the abduction and murder of Asia Times Online journalist Saleem Shahzad.

The ISI, or Directorate of Inter-Services Intelligence, is Pakistan's powerful military intelligence service.

Long suspected of maintaining militant ties it nurtured in the 1980s and 1990s, the U.S. raid that killed bin Laden in a Pakistan garrison town raised concerns that Pakistan was playing a "double-game" with the Taliban and al Qaeda.

"This whole reporting through media, quoting unnamed officials, anonymous sources, is part of a design to undermine the authority and the power of the organization in order to weaken the state," Abbas said.

He declined to specify exactly who the unnamed officials were, although the New York Times specified they were American officials.

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The editorial called for the removal of ISI chief Lieutenant General Ahmed Shuja Pasha and said: "The United States needs to use its influence to hasten Mr. Pasha's departure. ... The ISI has become inimical to Pakistani and American interests."

It added: "It's not clear how high up the culpability for Mr. Shahzad's murder goes - or whether there are any officials left in the ISI or the army who have the power and desire to reform the spy agency."

Abbas said there had been unease because of the bin Laden raid. "We have taken certain measures, which we consider, are in the best national interest."

Pakistan has demanded the number of U.S. military personnel in Pakistan be slashed, and the United States has complied. Pakistan also wants to cut the number of U.S. intelligence officials.

"We have also ordered a number of them to be reduced, to go back, because we consider these as non-essential personnel in certain areas, and they've been asked to leave," he said.

The ISI and CIA, he said, which have worked together for decades, should "formalize" their relationship.

He said Pasha had "asked them that the relationship between the two intelligence agencies should be formalized. It should be documented. It should not be open-ended. It should not be left to the other side to interpret the way they want to."

He said the ISI wanted the United States to tell Pakistan about its intelligence operations and who it was sending into the country.

The cross-border exchanges of fire on the Afghan border are also a source of concern, Abbas said.

Afghan officials say nearly 800 rockets fired from Pakistan over the past month have killed 42 people, including children, wounded dozens more and destroyed 120 homes. There are Islamist insurgents on both sides of the porous and disputed border and it is extremely difficult to verify events.

"I think this report has been grossly inflated, exaggerated," Abbas said. "During firing engagement of fleeing militants, a few rounds must have gone across and may have caused casualties."

Pakistan has for months complained to Afghanistan and coalition forces fighting the Taliban there of allowing safe havens for Pakistani militants that have been driven across the border by Pakistani army operations.

"All the militants' leaders have gathered there, and are reorganizing their forces who cross over and attack our posts."

Pakistan has lost more than 55 security personnel in six major cross-border raids by militants based in Afghanistan in the last month.

(Writing and additional reporting by Chris Allbritton; Editing by Alison Williams)

The Americans, the Pak military and ISI working covertly through the Pak/Afghan Taliban

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The ISI is made up entirely from personnel from the Pakistan military, headed by the Pakistan military, is an intelligence annex of the Pakistan military (military intelligence), and operates on the orders of the top military brass of the Pakistan military; Kiyani and Suja Pasha current head of ISI.

The Pakistan military in turn operates on the orders of the Americans, as do the ISI.......so the story below of the ISI doing things behind the Americans without their full knowledge is misinformation/disinformation from America.

The Afghan and Pak Taliban------ISI/Pak military-----American intelligence are working from the same book; they are not so much fighting each other as cooperating covertly to create a certain narrative that fulfills American geostrategy in that area.

Lest we forget it was in 1994, that the Americans first under the Clinton Administration who approached Benazir Bhutto, then prime minister, to create the Taliban from Pakistan, using the ISI. Then in 1996 Osama Bin Laden was invited to Afghanistan from the Sudan, and slowly through Pakistan assistence the al-Qaeda myth was created. Then as now ISI/Pak military directly and totally ran the Taliban operation using Gulf funds, and American guidance, and advice. Nothings changed.

So we have this story from American that the ISI/Pak military are covertly directing the Taliban to the detriment of the USA......NOT....in the full spectrum of history of how the Taliban was created from 1994.

But obviously somewhere in the future the American military will engage the Pakistan military and this is the running narrative and justification, building up to that eventually.

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US launched air attack inside Pak after verifying ISI-Taliban link: Book

By Times of India.

NEW DELHI: The US national security agency (NSA) has intercepted messages to indicate that Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence was in "complete coordination" with the Taliban, according to a US journalist.

New York Times' White House correspondent David E Sanger has claimed in his latest book that the US decision to launch air attacks inside Pakistan's western borders was taken after "one such high-level conversation was intercepted" in which a speaker said the Taliban was a "strategic asset" for Pakistan.

Excerpts of the book 'The Inheritance: The World Obama Confronts and the challenges to American power' were published by Pakistani newspaper The News.

The daily said former Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf called a press conference recently to "repeatedly deny" allegations in the book that he had held a series of parleys with slain PPP leader Benazir Bhutto about her security, following which she returned to Pakistan.

The book also claimed that NSA had intercepted messages indicating ISI officers of helping Taliban in planning a big bomb attack in Afghanistan although the target was unclear.

After some days, Kandahar jail was attacked by Taliban and hundreds of their militants were freed, it said, adding that the US decision to invade Pakistani territories was taken "after CIA reached a conclusion that the ISI was absolutely in complete coordination with the Taliban".

According to the Pakistani daily, Sanger also wrote that the telephones of all senior army officers, including its chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, were bugged by NSA and CIA.

The author "claims that American intelligence agencies were intercepting telephonic conversations of army officers and the decision to attack Pakistan through drones was taken after one such high-level conversation was intercepted claiming the Taliban as a 'strategic asset' for Pakistan", it said.

The US scribe "seemed to have been given direct access to the secret record of several meetings held at the White House before George Bush left on January 20," the daily said.

The book said NSA had picked up intercepts like someone giving advance warning of what was coming to Taliban when the Pakistan Army was getting ready to hit places in tribal areas.

According to 'The News', the book also claimed that the Americans were in "full knowledge of the facts on the ground and they started attacking territories inside Pakistan as they thought the Pakistan army and intelligence agencies were no more interested in fighting the Taliban."

It also speaks of a two-star general as saying that supporting Taliban was absolutely necessary as "Indians will rein when Americans pull out".

The Pakistani daily said it had sought a detailed response from the Inter Services Public Relations to its report and promised to give it "equal and similar space".