The Hostages in Nariman House were the attackers.

NARIMAN HOUSE HOSTAGES OR ATTACKERS?

Submitted by a WRH reader.

Note the contradiction in the following stories about the Nariman House Siege:

From:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/29/nyregion/29chabad.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=all

“Jewish Center Is Stormed, and 6 Hostages Die”

Quote: “Israeli officials and Lubavitch elders confirmed later that six hostages were found dead inside. They were Rabbi Gavriel Holtzberg, 29, of Brooklyn, and his Israeli wife, Rivka, 28, the Lubavitch emissaries in Mumbai who ran Nariman House; another rabbi from Brooklyn who was living in Israel, Leibish Teitelbaum; Bentzion Chroman, an Israeli with dual American citizenship; an unidentified Israeli woman; and another unidentified woman, according to Rabbi Zalman Shmotkin, a Lubavitch spokesman in Brooklyn , and The Associated Press”.

Were all six hostages or were some of the “hostages” really attackers?

From: http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/20081128/wl_time/08599186266100

"Inside the Taj: Tracking Down the Terrorists"

QUOTE:”In Colaba market, a handful of terrorists stormed one of the apartment buildings at about 10 p.m. on Wednesday and then began randomly shooting and lobbing grenades into the street and at neighboring buildings, according to residents of the area. From the vantage point of three Black Cat snipers watching the building, I could see Nariman House's shattered windows. The couple who own the building are Jewish, giving rise to rumors throughout the day that "Israelis" were somehow involved in the attacks. The other people in the building, including an infant wearing a pink bonnet and green blanket, were held as hostages but released early Thursday . The last person to leave, a young woman, told authorities that the only remaining hostages were the couple, who had made no sound or movement since the night before. By 5 p.m. , they were presumed to be dead, and the Black Cat commandos moved in half an hour later, unleashing a volley of gunshots into the building. By 9:30 p.m. local time, the firing was still going on, and it was not clear whether the four to five suspects inside had been killed or captured.

THE ATTACKERS WERE NOW LABELLED AS “HOSTAGES” BY THE MSM.

OTHER STORIES TELL OF ONLY TWO ATTACKERS KILLED AT NARIMAN HOUSE

What happened to the rest?

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/11/28/mumbai-attacks.html

“During the operation, the commandos killed two militants, only to discover the bodies of the six hostages inside, the city's police chief confirmed”

Webmaster's comment: It may well be that, given the reports that attackers had been staying at a guest house at the Jewish center for 15 days before the attacks, that the Rabbi and his wife were willing supporters of the operation, then were sacrificed in order to have the appropriate bloody shirts to wave before the media. The four-person discrepancy noted above makes perfect sense if four of the attackers were recognizable or identifiable as Israelis, and were declared to be dead hostages to conceal their roles in the operation.

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From the Guardian:

"One police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish centre told the Guardian the attackers were "white" (all of them? How many of them), although this could mean they were paler-skinned Indians from the country's north.

"I went into the building late last night," he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back."

Shiv Sena linked, by their leaders statements.

India uncovers Hindu terror group that carried out bombings blamed on Islamists

At least 10 people, including monk and army officer, held.

Report from Belfast Telegraph

By Andrew Buncombe in Delhi
Sunday, 23 November 2008

India is in something of a state of shock after learning from official sources that its first Hindu terror cell may have carried out a series of deadly bombings that were initially blamed on militant Muslims. The revelation is forcing the country to consider some difficult questions.

At least 10 people have been arrested in connection with several bomb blasts in the Muslim-dominated town of Malegaon in the western state of Maharashtra in September, which left six people dead. But reports suggest that police believe the cell may also have carried out a number of previous attacks, including last year's notorious bombing of a cross-border train en route to Pakistan, which killed 68 people. Among the alleged members of the cell are a serving army officer and a Hindu monk.

Bomb attacks are not uncommon in India – there has been a flurry in recent months – but police usually blame them on Muslim extremists, often said to have links to militant groups based in either Pakistan or Bangladesh. As a result, the recent cracking of the alleged Hindu cell has forced India to face some difficult issues. A country that prides itself on purported religious and cultural toleration – an ambition that in reality often falls short – has been made to ask itself how this cell could operate for so long. India's military, which prides itself on its professionalism, has been forced to order an embarrassing inquiry.

The near-daily drip of revelations from police has also caused red faces for India's main political opposition, the Hindu nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), ahead of state polls and a general election scheduled for early next year. The BJP and its prime ministerial candidate, Lal Krishna Advani, have long accused the Congress Party-led government of being soft on terrorism that involved Muslims. However, the BJP has refused to call for a clampdown on Hindu groups, and last week Mr Advani even criticised the police over the way they questioned one of the alleged cell members, a woman called Sadhvi Pragya Singh Thakur.

The Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, phoned his rival to ask him not to politicise the issue or the investigation. "There is a strong case so let the police do their job," he told Mr Advani. While some commentators have expressed surprise about the discovery of the alleged cell, others have pointed out that there has been growing concern about the possible threat from Hindu extremists. In the summer, two members of a right-wing Hindu group were killed while putting together a bomb, and two other suspected members of the same group died in similar circumstances in 2006.

Meanwhile, senior right-wing leaders have made no secret of their wish that Hindus should form suicide squads to protect themselves against Muslim extremists. Bal Thackeray, leader of a group called the Shiv Sena, which has been responsible for communal and regional violence in Mumbai, wrote recently in the party's magazine: "The threat of Islamic terror in India is rising. It is time to counter the same with Hindu terror. Hindu suicide squads should be readied to ensure the existence of Hindu society and to protect the nation."

Observers say the fact that the police have arrested the alleged cell members amid considerable political pressure suggests the growing professionalism of its security forces. "It's the first Hindu cell and it's the first time Hindus have been shackled and taken to jail," said Professor Dipankar Gupta, a sociologist at Delhi's Jawarlahal Nehru University. "I'm quite pleased with the way the police have done their jobs."

An old intelligence trick.

The investigation of what happened in Mumbai 26--28th November by the Central government must be thorough.

The CBI must investigate it, as must RAW, the Interior Ministry, the justice ministry and so forth. Local Mumbai, or state investigative teams may not be wholly reliable after the sad passing of Hemant Kakare. It seems to me the whole objective of the terrorist operation was to bait the ATS commanders, and other anti-terrorist organisations and then kill them.

India has great investigative facilities.

India is a significant power, that does not need the assistence of foreign organisations to assist Indian investigators. India does not need the FBI to assist it.

China would not allow the FBI to come into their country, nor would Russia.

WTC 1993, WACO, Oklahoma City bombing of the government building 1995 and 9/11 happened and on each ocassion the FBI as the prime anti-terror organisation was never held accountable for their abject failure in their core duty.

India does not need their "Expertise" to fit their narrative and perspective of what actually happened in Mumbai.

If they are allowed to enter, and "investigate" 1) That is a slur on Indian investigative ability. 2) Allows foreign biased entities to input their perspectives on the events. 3) Reinforce the old intelligence trick:

Plant a story in a foreign country, about say national politics, and then let the story develop in that foreign country, and other countries...................................and then re-introduce that story back into your own country as the original truth, because of course it must be true if it came from foreign sources. This is a hundred years old trick.

India does not need Third Parties coming forward and telling India that Al-Qaeda, or L-e-t, were responsible................if that is all they are going to say, then it has no value.

INDIA MUST DO HER NATIONAL DUTY BY HERSELF, AND NOT ALLOW OTHERS TO DICTATE THE NARRATIVE.

I fully appreciate that a "relationship" has developed between sections of Indian intelligence and the Israelis, with the Americans. I understand that RAW provided the list of the 19 Arab Hijackers about 9/11 in September 12, a day after the event. What intrigues me is how RAW had the "expertise" to know precisely what was going on American soil to so conclusively be able to provide such a comprehensive list, a day or two after the event happened?

Be that as it may, the FBI did accept the list as gospel, but such cooperation should not mean that they have a free PASS to come to India, from America, from the other side of the world, and tell India that some obscure Al-Qaeda linked group, based in the Deccan, or in Pakistan did it.

Unless the agenda is to corner Pakistan, and legitimate an attack.

It will not add legitimacy from such a source. It will not solve India's source of domestic terrorism problems, from the left (Naxals) from Muslims, or from the right (RSS).

Some pictures of the terrorists.

From Uruk blog




















Notice the red cord on his right wrist. Tying a red thread or cord around the wrist is a Hindu practice and it is unlikely a Muslim, especially one politicized enough to carry out an attack such as this, would observe it. I think this provides more evidence that this was a false flag operation or at least an attack by a non-Muslim group. For more information about the significance of the red thread see wikipedia and this blog post.



















Looks Indian, in his twenties. Looks like he's been to hell, brainwashed and back. Manchurian candidate. The LTTE have refined this art, and one wonders to what extent the RSS has some linkages with the LTTE.

The LTTE is Hindu, but ethnic Tamil nationalist fighting a mixed Buddhist dominated Sinhalese government in Sri Lanka, whilst the RSS are Hindu religious nationalists. Though the RSS may have access to trained security personnel from various Indian forces, it is not too far fetched to suppose that a criminal nexus exists between the LTTE and RSS, in the form of logistical support, training and actual participation by some RSS members in operations with the LTTE in Sri Lanka. So that "I scratch your back and you scratch my back" relationship already exists between the two, including drugs trafficking business which seems to be the main financial source for the LTTE.





Whilst others mentioned seeing White males, blond with punk rock hairstyles. (This is a picture of an ordinary punk guy from London.....used as an example)






From the Guardian:

"One police officer who encountered the gunmen as they entered the Jewish center told the Guardian the attackers were "white" (all of them? How many of them), although this could mean they were paler-skinned Indians from the country's north.

"I went into the building late last night," he said. "I got a shock because they were white. I was expecting them to look like us. They fired three shots. I fired 10 back."

In India the term white refers to people of European stock, and not to fair-skinned North Indians (Aryans).( the word Ghora..... which means white but also means foreigner from Europe........Firingi...old term, and numerous other words and terms). There are some blonds of Pakistani and Indian extraction, but highly unlikely that any of them would have punk hairstyles.

It seems that was also the case with other sites, where people saw blond, white people posing as the attackers.

From the BBC:

"Then, the "foreign looking, fair skinned" men, as Mr Mishra remembers them, simply carried on killing."

"Locals say the orgy of killings in Mumbai began here. Three men walked into the cafe, drank beer, settled their bills and walked out. Then they fished out guns from their bags and began firing."

At the Leopald cafe.

"They did not look Indian, they looked foreign. One of them, I thought, had blonde hair. The other had a punkish hairstyle. They were neatly dressed," says Mr Amir.

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Conclusions:

This is a foreign with Indian operation involving the RSS, elements of German?? operatives, Israeli or other Western mercenaries. It would be wonderful if some of these people were captured alive, so that the media could view them. But unlikely as the escape routes, and disappearnce would have been planned in addition.

If there is a cover-up, with Shiv Sena dominating Mumbai, and Hemant Kakare dead as head of the ATS, then the RSS element will be missing from the evidence, as will the German/Israeli/foreign presence. What will be left is some Muslim Indian, or even a Pakistani whose identity is fully revealed to the world.

Hero Hemant Kakare was either killed by the Israelis from Nariman house, or by somebody from his own team. In all events it looks like he and his closet confidantes fell into a well planned trap.

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On a broader philosophical note, once you fall into the cycle of fake terrorism and counter -terrorism WITH ISRAELI involvement with both sides, then your nation is doomed. For an example of this we only need look at Sri Lanka, where the Israelis trained and armed both sides of the conflict.

I urge ALL responsible Indians to heed this advice, and refrain from the Israelification of their security apparatus.

The following article is very instructive of what I am talking about.

More from Moon of Alabama.

Posted by b at Moon of Alabama blog

The Attack in Mumbai II

The cleanup operation in Mumbai are still ongoing as the police and army search and fight through two big hotels that were attacked. The latest casualties numbers are 125 dead, 327 injured.

As said before, there is something weird about these attacks.

There was no clear target.

The major attacks were on a railway station, two big hotels, a multiplex movie theater and a bar. Two taxis were blown up. Two terrorists allegedly were at a hospital.

Of the dead only 6 were foreigners, of the wounded 7. While those hotels and the bar frequently have foreigners those numbers and the attack on the railway station and the cinema do not fit to an "attack on foreigners" scheme.

There also seams to be no special religious anti-Muslim or anti-Hindi scheme in this as no place of worship was attacked.

The attacks, even while there were a lot of casualties, seem not designed to cause the maximum number of dead. One would do that with explosives within the crowded railway station. Not by shooting into the masses or by blowing up a random taxi.

There were no suicide bombings. Apparently there was no hostage taking either. But the attackers did not care or prepare to get away either. Instead they waited for the police and then had a shootout at each place.

The group that allegedly claimed the attack has never been heard of. For maximum international media attention thanksgiving is not a good day.

This coordinated attack brought out all anti-terror units in Mumbai. That, I think, might have well been the intended aim. The attacks seem to have been designed to do and to create direct battle situations with the anti-terror forces.

Here is my conspiracy theory:

The right-wing, Hindu-nationalist BJP party is competing with the ruling Congress party for upcoming elections. A big election theme is Islamic terrorism.

On September 28 a bomb blast in Malegaon, some 150 miles north of Mumbai, killed four and injured 80.

Two years before in a series of bombings at a Muslim cemetery in Malegaon 31 were killed and over 100 wounded. Most were Muslim, but the local police then pointed to some people from the Student Islamic Movement of India as the culprits.

The investigation of this years blast in Malegaon was carried out by the Anti Terrorism Squad from the state capitol Mumbai under its chief Hemant Karkare. It figured that a right-wing nationalist Hindu groups, which included some former higher ranking military and had some ties to the BJP, was the culprit.

It is an ongoing huge investigation which has had loud echoes in the parliament and the election campaigns.

A week ago Hemant Karkare was in a tussle with the nationalist BJP:

The Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) on Thursday invoked the stringent Maharashtra Control of Organised Crime Act (MCOCA) against the ten accused arrested so far in the September 29 Malegaon blast case.

One more suspect would be arrested soon, ATS chief Hemant Karkare said at a press conference.
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Rebutting senior BJP leader L K Advani's charge, Maharashtra Anti-Terrorism Squad said there was no political pressure on it in handling the Malegaon blast probe nor was there any substance in the charge that accused Lt Col P S Purohit was tortured in custody.

"There is zero political pressure and we are working professionally. Purohit has said in open court that ATS has not ill treated him," ATS head Hemant Karkare said.

Two days ago Karkare received death threats:

The Pune cyber cell officer on Tuesday received a call from an unknown caller who issued death threat to Mumbai's Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare, TV channels reported.

Yesterday Hemant Karkare was killed when he responded to the attack on the Taj hotel (video showing him preparing to go in).

All together four top anti-terror policemen were killed.

Mumbai Police Anti-Terrorism Squad (ATS) chief Hemant Karkare was among the dead. Two Indian Police Service (IPS) officers, additional police commissioners Ashok Kamte and Sadanand Date, were killed in separate gun battles with terrorists, the authorities said.

Mumbai Police "encounter specialist" Vijay Salaskar were also shot dead in another gun battle. Karkare was heading investigations into several recent cases of terrorist attacks here.

All four were in the first response wave against the attacks. Salaskar was a Mumbai top response officer with 75 criminals killed on his list. Kamte was the key officer in the state police and known to be 'in the thick of it'.

Karkare died when he tried to enter the Taj hotel. Kamte and Salaskar died at the multiplex.(I could find out about Date.)

In total 14 police were killed and 26 wounded.

These are high numbers. How many of them were ambushed?

With Karkare dead, the investigation into the Malegaon explosions and their backers will likely be postponed until after the election.

Meanwhile BJP leader Advani is milking the attacks as good as he can:

The BJP's prime minister-in-waiting's remarks makes it clear that the party is going to ratchet up its "soft-on-terror'' campaign against the Manmohan Singh government in the coming days. While the latest serial attacks are likely to boost its prospects in the ongoing assembly polls, it is expected to add more strength to its anti-terror tirade. The party is certain to spare no effort to bring the issue towards the centre of the country's political discourse in the run-up to the general election.
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While the party stated that the priority was "to bring the seize to a close with the least amount of casualty", the larger questions were not far behind. "Such a well-orchestrated attack could not have taken place without a long and large scale conspiracy, we hope that the political establishment, security agencies, and the country as a whole would draw the right lessons from the incident. We need to strengthen our intelligence network and have a strong legal and security mechanism to fight terror," BJP general secretary Arun Jaitley stated.

From asking "Qui bono?" I arrive at the BJP's door.

The attack, designed to created fight-outs with police, killed the man who was the biggest danger for the BJP as he was revealing Hindu terrorism and made the BJP campaign against Muslim terrorism seem bigot. The current attack, which will reliably be charged on some Muslim entity, will help the BJP win against the Congress party.

But me arriving at that door does not mean that the BJP really is responsible here, I only find it possible to likely.

Hemant the HERO.

Comments section: Moon of Alabama.

There are surely still some Eliot Nesses’s (iconic) out there dedicated to fighting the ruthless gangster mentality and their carnage in this world. That Hemant Karkare is one such individual is not a known fact to me but the record surely indicates that he and the ATS have made a significant negative impact on organized crime in their local. This is impermissible to the ruthless in their ascendance to yet higher power.

Is there any question that the norm for global corporations is the most nefarious ways of a well run mafia mob? World class mafia have become the most ruthless in the realm of the global corporate world.

(Recently led by the USA, criminalization of politics has accelerated around the world. Consider the fact that a couple Trillion $ are unaccounted for in the Pentagon, as stated by Donald Rumsfeld at a press conference in 10th September 2001, a day before 9/11.

Consider the fact that the USA might not be in Afghanistan to go after "Al-Qaeda" but to secure the Opium/Heroin out of the country, using the USA airforce to ship the stuff to Kosovo, and then to Europe and North America.

In then sense gangsters in America and India using the Boogie of terrorism to hide their criminal activity, propagate their criminal activity, justify their criminal activity, AND in the case of 9/11(The accounting and investigations part of the Pentagon was hit by the cruise missile) AND Mumbai terrorism is a tool by gangsters to hide their criminal activity, and subvert the investigators.)

In the hotbed of favorable gangster protection legislation, the US, they are certainly in the ascendancy. Not so in other nations of the world. India is known for it’s anti-corporate sentiments. (The fucker East India Company? That starved 30 million Indians to death to secure their profits, Indigo, Jute and other cash crops, and ship $1 trillion worth of Indian assets out of the country)

Whether it’s that they have been burned enough by the colonials or they just have the cultural maturity to detect the flim-flam I don’t know but it’s a nightmare for the corporate globalist that needs to secure total control of the local and Gandhi like small scale way of life in India. How can I doubt that the BJP plays into this deal?

A summary of b’s points make this obvious to me:

The investigation of this years blast in Malegaon was carried out by the Anti Terrorism Squad from the state capitol Mumbai under its chief Hemant Karkare.

Two days ago Karkare received death threats:

Yesterday Hemant Karkare was killed when he responded to the attack on the Taj hotel

All together four top anti-terror policemen were killed.

All four were in the first response wave against the attacks.

In total 14 police were killed and 26 wounded.

These are high numbers. How many of them were ambushed?

The right-wing, Hindu-nationalist BJP party is competing with the ruling Congress party for upcoming elections. A big election theme is Islamic terrorism.

The investigation of this years blast in Malegaon was carried out by the Anti Terrorism Squad from the state capitol Mumbai under its chief Hemant Karkare. It figured that a right-wing nationalist Hindu groups, which included some former higher ranking military and had some ties to the BJP, was the culprit.

The attack, designed to created fight-outs with police, killed the man who was the biggest danger for the BJP as he was revealing Hindu terrorism and made the BJP campaign against Muslim terrorism seem bigot.

The criminal psychopathic mentality is ruling in US corporate ethos and is reaching out to every potentially profitable niche in the world. Fighting and thwarting this deviance is crucial. As with Ossetia early detection and analysis are a keystone in this battle.

Posted by: Juannie | Nov 27, 2008 10:14:26 PM | 28

The RSS Linkage to terrorism.

Malegaon blasts
Purohit procured RDX for Samjhauta blast: ATS.
From Siffy News

Nashik: Serving Army officer Lt Col P S Purohit procured 60 kg of RDX from Jammu and Kashmir in 2006, a part of which is suspected to have been used in the Samjauta Express train explosion and Malegaon blasts, Maharashtra police told a court here today.

Seeking extension of police custody of Purohit, special prosecutor for the Maharashtra ATS, Ajay Misar, told the court that a witness in Malegaon blast told the ATS that Purohit had claimed he had 60 kgs of RDX in his possession, which he had got from Jammu and Kashmir.

Purohit gave a portion of the RDX to one Bhagwan, who is suspected to have used in Samjhauta Express blast, Misar said.

Malegaon blast: Retired Colonel under ATS scanner

The RDX is also suspected to have been used in Malegaon bomb explosion on September 29 this year, due to which Purohit's interrogation is necessary, Misar told the court.

Purohit, arrested in connection with the Malegaon blast, was today produced before a Nashik court, where ATS sought his further police custody in order to interrogate him thoroughly and the court granted it till November 18.

Purohit, who was with Military Intelligence, had told the authorities that he had thrown RDX into the Jhelum River, the special counsel said.

Police suspect ‘radical Hindu terror plot’

However, it is suspected that he transported the RDX to Deolali in Nashik, he said.

The ATS also told the court that it was investigating the source of the RDX, which Purohit had obtained.

Purohit is also alleged to have conducted an arms and explosives training camp for members of right wing organization Abhinav Bharat in Panchmarhi in Madhya Pradesh between October 16 and 21 2006, Misar said.

The public prosecutor told the court that they had found evidence of links between arrested Sadhvi Pragya Thakur Singh and religious leader Dayanand Pandey arrested in Kanpur.

Malegaon blast: ATS tightlipped on Purohit's laptop

The ATS has found during the course of the investigations that Pandey had introduced Purohit to Ramji Kalsangra who is wanted in the Malegaon blast, Misar said.

The court dismissed an application filed by Purohit's father-in-law alleging torture in police custody after the army official denied it in the court. Medical records also did not show any evidence of physical torture.

A shared tragedy.

Empathy, Grief in Pakistan at Mumbai Mayhem

by Beena Sarwar at Inter Services Press.

KARACHI - The terrorist attacks unleashed in the Indian port city and financial hub of Mumbai continue to reverberate through Pakistan at a personal level and on the media. (Pakistan in one year alone has suffered 1,400 dead from terrorist acts, one one wonders what is the true casualties of the security forces and the militants in the NWFP in Pakistan...........it could be higher, much higher. As a poor country with an economy 10 times smaller than India, the impact of such events is far greater on Pakistan; India with a population 6.5 times bigger has suffered about 900 dead so far including the recent tragedy in Mumbai, claiming 195 lives? so far) The crisis, that began Wednesday night and lasted through Friday, dominates conversation, newspaper headlines, television coverage and Internet chatter on indigenous websites and e-mail lists run by Pakistanis at home and abroad. (Yes I am also focusing on it!) As a frontline state in United States' global "war on terror" Pakistan is only too well acquainted with the effects of terrorism, with such attacks in the country having more than doubled and the number of deaths quadrupling from 2006 to 2007, according to a report released in May by the US State Department. (A front line state against terror, whose army is trained by the USA/UK, through training packages, and the ISI created by the British in 1948, with extremely close linkages with the USA) However, even the most high profile attack in Pakistan which destroyed the Marriott Hotel in the capital Islamabad on Sep. 20, that some analysts termed Pakistan's "9/11," pales in comparison to the events in Mumbai that have claimed over 155 lives already, that many are now calling India's "9/11." (I don't know whether I would term it that way..........what happened in Mumbai looks like commando operations by a desperate group of "politicised" criminals from India RSS with linakages with foreign groups possibly from Israel, and the West. Eye witnesses and Indian commando's clearly saw WHITE people with blond hair, punk hairstyles, in certain scenes such as the hotels operating as terrorists, with intercepted conversations in Hindi in other places........In that sense it could not be described as India's 9/11) A group of at least 25 men armed with assault rifles and handgrenades attacked 10 sites in Mumbai and then barricaded themselves inside two of the city's finest luxury hotels, the heritage Taj Mahal and the Oberoi Trident, as well as a building housing a Jewish center. (It wouldn't be the best way to advertise Pakistan, and Islam at this particular time, but a damned good way to slur Pakistan and Islam.........by??????Hindi speakers, Mauritius government ID Cards; they buy liquor and other supplies; Some of them white, with blond hair with punk hairstyle............10 sites targeted, by 25 men in Mumbai? Who is familiar with playing these cryptic games? Looking not so much to kill as many USA/UK citizens as possible, as very few actually died(for that they could have gone to the beaches of GOA with Uzi's or Heckler-Kochs)............they were looking for fire fights with the Mumbai cities anti-terror capabilities to test it? To advertise its weakness? To warn it against further investigations of the RSS/false flag ops linkages .) By the time commando squads flushed out the buildings, 155 people lay dead, among them eight foreigners. The final death toll may well reach 200, according to officials. There has been widespread condemnation in Pakistan against the violence in Mumbai, from ordinary people and non-government organizations as well as from the Pakistan government which has offered "complete cooperation" and support to India to fight the menace. (It would help also if Zardari/Kiyani finally decided to visit India. Now I appreciate they are puppets of the USA/UK, but even so puppets have some leeway, don't they. Malaki wants USA troops out of Iraq; Karzai says he would like foreign troops out too!!!!!!! My request is for Zardari/Kiyani to finally express genuine solidarity with the people of India, and South Asia in general by making formal state visits to India, soon) The Mumbai attacks, hitting in the midst of the fifth round of the ongoing composite dialogue between India and Pakistan, are likely to have wide-ranging repercussions for India and Pakistan relations and for the international community at large. Analysts note that such attacks tend to take place whenever the South Asian neighbors are engaged in talks and peace initiatives. Pakistan Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi had barely started his four-day visit to New Delhi to review the dialogue process when the attacks took place. (Hmmmmmm!!!!) Pakistan and India tend to blame each other for terrorist activities within their borders, although over the past year they have been less quick to point fingers. This time too, New Delhi did not immediately blame Pakistan, but later claimed to have arrested a militant with Pakistani links. The Pakistan government has strongly denied involvement. (Pakistan had nothing to do with this, its hands are full dealing with foreign backed insurgency in Baluchistan and NWFP; Its position is weak economically and strategically........and its ISI is the process of being reigned in, with the political wing of the ISI being dismantled) Commentators in Pakistan point to the huge intelligence failure in India to detect the amassing of arms and training that have enabled such a large number of militants to hold Mumbai hostage for over two days now. They also criticize New Delhi's apparent reluctance to look within India's own borders at its various indigenous insurgencies. (Now is an highly insensitive time to blame Indian security forces, especially if the criticism is from a nation like Pakistan which has a worse record in that arena within Pakistan;failure to protect civilians, running through to failure to protect high profile national figures like Benazir Bhutto and a couple of generals) "All of India's intelligence agencies have failed," comments Farrukh Saleem, who heads the Center for Research and Security Studies, an independent think tank in Islamabad, "The most critical element in their collective failure is their overwhelming focus on Pakistan-based militant groups." (Meaningless sweeping statement) He believes that the intensity of this focus has allowed India's homegrown militant entities "to spread like wildfire" that, according to South Asia Terrorism Portal, afflicts at least 231 of India's 608 districts. These insurgent and terrorist movements include three distinct types, "left-wing extremist, separatist and religious," wrote Saleem in a front page analysis in daily The News on Nov. 28. "In 2006, a total of 2,765 Indians died in terrorism-related violence (that same year, 1,471 Pakistanis died similarly)." ( I think the excellent work of Hemant Kakare, ex-RAW and head of ATS Mumbai, shows precisely that they have a very holistic and objective approach to their work.........and when it started he was there immediately on the scene, and not theorizing, pointing fingers and blaming from a good safe distance) Another analyst, who declining to be named, suggests that South Asian countries band together for joint military operations in the areas known to be breeding grounds for militancy against the guerrilla groups operating in different areas in the region. (Why limit South Asian cooperation to just terrorism which is a transnational global affair, with linkages invariably to Israeli and Western Intelligence? Why not create a South Asian security block, merging the armed forces and security forces of South Asia, who look to each other for resources, training, cooperation and exchanging information.............a security block that stands together, and fights together, with no unsubstantiated recriminations by worthless 2 ana politicians angling fr political gain, barely before the incident is over, and full reports being submitted by the proper authorities) In New Delhi, Qureshi stressed that India and Pakistan are both victims of terrorism. He said there was a need to strengthen the Joint Anti-Terror Mechanism and "revisit our strategies for peace and security of the region." "Terrorism is a global phenomenon. We in Pakistan deal with it on a daily basis," Qureshi said. "We will have to join all our resources to fight the menace." (just words at this stage, and gestures for public consumption) In an unprecedented gesture, Islamabad agreed to send its intelligence chief Lt. Gen. Ahmed Shujaa Pasha, the new director general of the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) to India at Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's request. ( I understand he has had second thoughts...........pressure from the real Masterji?) Pakistan's civilian government in another groundbreaking move has recently disbanded the political wing of the ISI, often blamed for fomenting political trouble in the country and abroad. "I feel a great fear that (the Mumbai violence) will adversely affect Pakistan and India relations," prominent Karachi-based feminist poet and writer Attiya Daud told IPS. "I can't say whether Pakistan is involved or not, but whoever is involved, it is not the ordinary people of Pakistan, like myself, or my daughters. We are with our Indian brothers and sisters in their pain and sorrow." Daud said she is still in shock from the events in Mumbai, a city she has often visited. "Such a beautiful city, so many people's livelihoods and so much art and culture associated with it… It is so painful to see what is happening there. I watch the television coverage and remember standing at one of those spots watching street theater..." Others, like Karachi-based businessman Tahir Siddiqui, believe that events in Mumbai will force greater cooperation not only between India and Pakistan but also between other countries engaged in combating terrorism. "Pakistan can't afford to open any more fronts," Siddiqui told IPS. "We have to cooperate in this fight. I think any support within Pakistan to militants will decrease significantly now, including in Kashmir." He added that the situation in Mumbai is "basically the symptom of a larger problem – the imperialist world's continuing support to dictatorial regimes across the Muslim world, from Indonesia to Morocco. This lack of democracy marginalizes people and holds back development. This is a wake-up call to address these issues." (Marxist perspective, which bears nothing to actual reality...........most terrorist organizations around the world are fronts of Israeli and Western intelligence and their geo-strategy around the globe. You look at the origins and history of ALL terrorist groups/"Freedom fighters" and you will always find some linkage, with intelligence agencies............groups in the Philippines, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Colombia.....and so on.) On a personal level, what can citizens do? "Resist fear!" advocated Islamabad-based peace activist Shahid Fiaz in an email to friends in India and Pakistan. "I know how it feels when your cities are attacked. After the Marriot Hotel bombing and continued suicide bombings around the country, people go out less - markets and restaurants have a deserted look." Fiaz, who is on the National Council of the Pakistan-India People's Forum for Peace and Democracy (PIPFPD), the largest people-to-people initiative between the two countries, told IPS that fear is what the terrorists want to achieve. "We need to come out and resist and tell terrorists that these are our cities, we own our cities and we are not scared!" "We in Pakistan understand and share the pain, anger and grief of the people of India, as we are also victims of terrorism including daily suicide bombings in one part of the country or the other," said Iqbal Haider, co-chairman of the independent Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) and a former federal minister for law and human rights. "Instead of accusing each other, which will only help the real terrorists, the need of the hour is unity and understanding among the people of our region. We need to make concerted efforts to defeat the nefarious aims of these terrorists and eradicate these extremist religious militants or mafias from every nook and corner of South Asia." In the final analysis, what is certain is that there will be no progress towards peace without determined political will. (Inter Press Service)

Some more Israeli false flags, this year.

Yemen is an ally of the USA, and has supported the war on terror policy of the USA.

It is in Yemeni waters where the attack on the USS Cole takes place.

Attack on U.S. Embassy in Yemen Linked to Mossad.

Reported from Wake Up From Your Slumber

Remember the attack on the U.S. embassy in Yemen last month that took the lives of eighteen people? A group calling themselves "Islamic Jihad" claimed responsibility for the blast. It has a nice, scary ring to it hasn't it? "Islamic Jihad" also happens to be the name of a group that operates out of Gaza.

"Islamic Jihad" pointedly mentioned its affiliation with al Qaeda after claiming responsibility for the September 17 U.S. embassy bombing:

"We, the Organisation of Islamic Jihad, belonging to the Al-Qaeda network, repeat our demand of (Yemeni President) Ali Abdullah Saleh to free our detained brothers within 48 hours," said a statement signed by self-proclaimed leader Abu Ghaith al-Yamani.

Former agent for French military intelligence Pierre-Henry Bunel has this to say about 'al Qaeda':

"The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the 'devil' only in order to drive the 'TV watcher' to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism..."

Well now the Yemeni authorities have arrested a group of these al Qaeda-backed militants with, surprise surprise, links to Israeli intelligence.

From BBC News:

Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh has said the security forces have arrested a group of alleged Islamist militants linked to Israeli intelligence.

Mr Saleh did not say what evidence had been found to show the group's links with Israel, a regional enemy of Yemen.

The arrests were connected with an attack on the US embassy in Sanaa last month which killed at least 18 people, official sources were quoted saying.

Israel's foreign ministry has rejected the accusation as "totally ridiculous".

"A terrorist cell was arrested and will be referred to the judicial authorities for its links with the Israeli intelligence services," Mr Saleh told a gathering at al-Mukalla University in Hadramawt province.

"Details of the trial will be announced later. You will hear about what goes on in the proceedings," he added.

The 17 September attack was the second to target the US embassy since April. Militants detonated car bombs before firing rockets at the heavily fortified building.

Mr Saleh did not identify the suspects, but official sources were quoted saying it was same cell - led by a militant called Abu al-Ghaith al-Yamani - whose arrest was announced a week after the attack.

An Israeli foreign ministry spokesman said the Yemeni president's statement was without foundation.

"To believe that Israel would create Islamist cells in Yemen is really far-fetched. This is yet another victory for the proponents of conspiracy theories," Igal Palmor said in remarks reported by AFP.

And from the Yemen Observer:

President Saleh revealed on Monday that security forces in Yemen caught an espionage network for Israel made up of Arab nationals. This announcement came during his speech in front of MP's, Shura Council members, local council members, scholars and military and security leaders at Hadhramout University.

According to the president the suspected spies will be brought before the courts shortly in a public trial after investigations are complete.

The network was comprised of 40 people from different Arab nationalities spying for Mossad, the Israeli international intelligence said sources from National and Political Security Units. The members of the espionage network entered Yemen on the premise of conducting business, tourism and even for preaching in mosques. Saleh said that the suspected spies form a terrorism cell that uses also Islam to reach their targets.Members were arrested individually and found to be in possession of detailed maps for sensitive security sites, intelligence telecommunication units and advanced tracking devices.

Article continues here.

And from another Oct 8 news report:

Dubai, Oct 8 (IANS) A terrorist cell busted in Yemen last month after a suicide attack on the US embassy there had links with an Israeli intelligence agency, the state-run Saba news agency reported.The report, quoting an unnamed source, said investigations and data retrieved from a computer seized from the cell, showed there was correspondence between the Islamic Jihad group’s deputy leader Bassam Abdullah Fadhel Al-Haidari and an Israeli intelligence agency.

Saba quoted the source as saying that the correspondence between the two sides included a request from the Israeli side to implement terrorist attacks inside Yemen.

Update: Here is the Saba news report mentioned above.

Keep track of news regarding the Israeli connection to Islamic Jihad here.

(Israeli objective: 1) Keep the al-Qaeda myth alive. 2) Reinforce Uncle Sam's perception that "we are in this together, against a common enemy".

In reality Israel does not need to recruit Arabs from various countries to carry out such acts, as Yemen already had at one time a significant Yemeni Jewish community. Yigael Eamir the killer of Itzhak Rabin was Yemeni Jewish. There are persistent rumors that the huge Bin Laden clan, haling from Yemen, but making their fortune in Saudi are in reality "Donmeh Jew" Jews pretending to be Muslim in order to advance in Muslim society. So the network is already there.

These Yemeni Jews have close business and historical ties with the Jews of Cochin India and Mumbai, going back several hundred years in the areas of smuggling, gold, precious stones, and more recently enphetamines and hard drugs, using Israeli tourists, of whom there are many in India as mules.

As to Manchurian candidates, yes you can pick up Muslims from slums, and brain wash them into attacking their own country, but the logistics and organisation of a multi---point target would ultimately require the "managment" of an Intelligence agency, and the logistics of an Intelligence agency. Angry, young, brainwashed patsies do not have the resources and the capacity to do such things.

The ONLY WAY the Indian authorities, who are not politicians angling for political advantage, who are tasked with PREVENTING such things is to call the situation like it really is.....................and go after the organisers, real sponsors (Israel) and in that sense Hemant Kakare was extremely brave and professional in conducting his work, on the basis of what is best for India. If you do not identify the true source, you merely perpetuate such incidents into the future, and your nation becomes hostage to the policies of foreign powers.)

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USA embassy attack

Some more about Mumbai and Israel.

Mossad behind the mass terror attack in Mumbai, India?

Reported in Wake Up from Your Slumber

When I first read the news of the coordinated attacks on specific places firing automatic rifles and lobbing grenades in the city of Mumbai on the west coast of India that occured Wednesday night, I deduce it is Mossad in the planning and execution of the attack -- by themselves or the deployment of Manchurian candidates ---------------- to provoke international outrage towards the designated enemy. Over 80 persons died and more than 250 wounded.

Turns out this might be the case. Mossad allegedly had a hand in Mumbai train attacks two years prior.

In BBC online article, it reported "A witness told local television that the gunmen were looking for people with British or US passport."

(A lot of the terrorists looked European looking, according to other sources)

Here's the bizarre article ("CIA, MOSSAD HAND BEHIND SANGH PARIVAR'S EXTREMISTS") recently posted as translated from Urdu.

Why Mossad chose to attack Mumbai is not a mystery. It is a financial capital of the entire country, similar to Wall Street of New York City in the U.S. But for what motives? We can only speculate.

(1. The "terrorist incident" theoretically brings India closer to Israel and reinforces the already close ties, by demonizing Muslims (AKA 9/11 NY, 7/7 London)

2. There are national elections in India not too far away. This "terrorist incident" is not too close to the elections, so that it becomes too obvious what the objective is, and yet not too far away from Indian national elections, where most Indians forget the incident.

3. The Israelis would like the BJP to win the next election, with its more hardline policy towards Pakistan, and so such incidents tend to help parties such as the BJP.

4. Israel since the 1970's has targeted Pakistan's nuclear program, by herself, or through the USA, or through India........This "terrorist incident" must be seen in terms of that overall scenario covering 30 years.)

A reminder, Crime of Zion exposed Mossad's role in attack on U.S. Embassy in Yemen.

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Official Source.

BRITAIN SAY ISRAEL STAGED 1976 HIJACKING.

Famed Israeli Raid on Entebbe Airport Culminated Shin Bet-Staged Hijacking Plot

American Free Press.

By Mark Glenn

Documents recently made public by the British government reveal that Israel played a direct role in the notorious hijacking of an Air France plane to Idi Amins Entebbe in 1976 and cooperated with the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) in staging the event remembered today as the Entebbe Incident.

In documents recently released and now sitting in the National Archives in London, D.H. Colvina British diplomat working in Paris wrote that, according to sources he knew, the hijacking was the work of the PFLP, with help from the Israeli Secret Service, the Shin Bet.

The operation was designed to torpedo the PLOs standing in France and to prevent a growing rapprochement between the Palestine Liberation
Organization (PLO) and the Americans, he said. My contact said the PFLP had attracted all sorts of wild elements, some of whom had been planted by the Israelis. .. . Their [the Israelis] nightmare is that after the November elections, one will witness the imposition in the Middle East of a Pax Americana, which will be to the advantage of the PLO, who will gain international respectability and perhaps the right to establish a state on evacuated territories and to the disadvantage of Israel, who will be forced to evacuate occupied territory.

The hijacking, or the Entebbe Incident as it is popularly known, gripped the attention of the world for nearly a week at that time. Hijackers seized an Air France plane bound for Paris via Athens shortly after it took off. The plane was diverted first to Benghazi, Libya, where it was refueled before going on to Entebbe, Uganda. In Entebbe, the hijackers released most of the hostages but kept 98 people, most of them Israeli citizens, and threatened to kill them unless Israel met their demands of releasing some 50
Palestinian prisoners held in Israel and in other places around the world.

In a dramatic rescue that has been the subject of several books and at least 4 films, Israeli commandos flew to the airport where shortly thereafter a 36-minute battle was fought with the hijackers and Ugandan soldiers.

In the end, six of the hijackers, 45 Ugandan soldiers, three hostages, and Col. Jonathan Netanyahu (commanding officer of the Israeli commandos and elder brother of Benjamin Netanyahu) were killed.

POISON OPINION

In the recently released document, the British diplomat went further in his analysis of the event, saying that Israel wanted to poison French opinion with regard to the Palestinian cause, for which the French had traditionally held a certain amount of sympathy. According to his analysis of the situation, Israel wished to make the threat implicit but nevertheless clear that terrorism is something that can happen in Europe just as easily as it happens in the Middle East.

The PFLP said to be responsible for this incident was founded by a Lebanese-educated Palestinian Christian named Dr. George Habash. Unlike the larger, centrist and more nationalistic Fatah movement of the PLO, the PFLP is a far left, Marxist-Leninist movement designated by several governments including that of the United States as a terrorist organization. Since the late 1960s it has been credited with dozens of high-profile events, including hijackings and bombings.

Along with the United States and Britain, Israel has a long and well-established history of assisting individuals and groups said to be responsible for acts of terrorism since the creation of the Jewish state in 1948.

Individuals such as the famed Abu Nidal and groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Hamas in the Occupied Territories and now, Fateh-al-Islam operating in Northern Lebanon all have at some point been creatures of Mossad, and MI5 intrigue.

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A pictorial of the event.

Additional reporting.

Once you let outside forces, through gangsters posing as political parties into your country they will determine your nations agenda, and your country is good as finished. Today it is this, tomorrow it is................they will always want more, for less. The real crime here is where people see what is being committed but choose to do nothing about it.

Mumbai The Mossad Angle

By Amaresh Mishra at Axis of Evil.

GAUTAM ADHIKARI SPEAK UP… DO SOMETHING…SAY OPENLY THAT THE RSS-MOSSAD ARE RESPONSIBLE–OTHERWISE BE DAMNED AND CONSIDER THE NATION DOOMED. THEY KILLED KARKARE TO SEND A MESSAGE THAT YOU CANNOT INVESTIGATE THE MOSSAD-RSS ANGLE.

Mumbai and India Under Attack.


It is 4AM in India right now. I am in Mumbai reporting from the ground. I have not slept a wink. Mumbai is under attack. People and forces who killed Mahatama Gandhi, who demolished the Babari Mosque have triumphed. More than 16 groups of terrorists have taken over Taj, Oberai and several hotels. Hundreds of people are dead. For the first time no one is blaming Muslim organizations.

(Let me repeat that once you let these gangster types get away with the Babri Mosque incident, the Gujarat massacres..............then more than certainly these people will come back for more. What is unique is the foreign direction these organizations are receiving)

The Mumbai ATS chief Hemant Karkare and other officers of the ATS have been killed. (has this been confirmed by the authorities, if so then we have motive, VERY STRONG MOTIVES)

These were the same people who were investigating the Malegaon Blasts–in which Praggya Singh, an army officer and several other noted personalities of the BJP-RSS-Bajrang Dal-VHP were arrested. Karkare was the man to arrest them. Karkare was receiving threats from several quarters. LK Advani, the BJP chief and several other prominent leaders of the so-called Hindu terrorism squad were gunning for his head. And the first casualty in the terrorist attack was Karkare! He is dead–gone–the firing by terrorists began from Nariman House–which is the only building in Mumbai inhabited by Jews. Some Hindu Gujaratis of the Nariman area spoke live on several TV channels–they openly said that the firing by terrorists began from Nariman house. And that for two years suspicious activities were going on in this house. But no one took notice.

Our worst fears have come true. It is clear that Mossad is involved in the whole affair. An entire city has been attacked by Mossad and probably units of mercenaries.

(Provide more detail. Who are the Indians who saw this? At what time? What type of suspicious activity are we talking about? Which Jewish organisation control Nariman house? Who are the people at Nariman house? Where do they come from and where do they go domestically and internationally? Who do they associate with at Nariman house? What type of activity do the Jews in Nariman house undertake politically and socially? All this covering two years.)

It is not possible for one single organization to plan and execute such a sophisticated operation. It is clear that this operation was backed by communal forces from within the Indian State. The Home Minister Shivraj Patil should resign. The RSS-BJP-VHP-Bajrang Dal should be banned. Advani and others ought to be arrested. Today is a day of shame for all Indians and all Hindus. Muslims and secular Hindus have been proven right. RSS type forces and Israel are all involved in not only destabilizing but finishing India. India should immediately snap all relations with Israel. We owe this much to Karkare and the brave ATS men who had shown the courage to arrest Praggya Singh, Raj Kumar Purohit, the army officer and several others.

A photograph published in Urdu Times, Mumbai, clearly shows that Mossad and ex-Mossad men came to India and met Sadhus and other pro-Hindutva elements recently. A conspiracy was clearly hatched.

This is a moment of reckoning especially for Hindus of India. The killers of Gandhi have struck again. If we are true Sanatanis and true Hindus and true nationalists and true patriots we have to see this act as a clear attack by anti-national deshdrohi forces. Praggya Singh, Advani and the entire brand is anti-national. ......................................!!!!!!!##?&&&

This is a question of nationalism. If no one else, the Indian army will not take this lying down.

(I firmly believe that the overall, general Indian armed forces are secular and professional in nature given their excellent record over 61 years. There may be a few rotten apples in the barrel, very very few. Given the record of this professionalism I wouldn't want them embroiled in civilian matters, and thus become politicized....................let the proper authorities deal with this incident....ATS, CRP, CBI, CID and so forth, and let them investigate and publish the absolute truth............the politicians on both sides can say what they like)


Communal, anti-national forces have attacked the very foundation of the Indian constitution and the nation. We will fight a civil war if need be against the pro-Hindutva, communal forces and their Israeli backers.

(In one sense this is a civil war, which has already taken the lives of 800 people nationwide recently. I am not sure a full civil war is necessary to confront these evil foreign backed anti-state agents, but the commitment and aggression to fight for a secular, moderate democracy is a sentiment I fully support Amaresh, and the recognition without question who is behind all this........this is the correct approach.............the call to violence is not acceptable however, because then you have stooped to the level of the very criminals you are attempting to "struggle" against)

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A pictorial of the event.

Security Review.

So what the Congress Party has to do quietly, is a massive security review.

Yes 100,000 Indian farmers die each year, because they can't meet their unfair debt commitments.

Yes 60,000 Indians are killed each year from homicide.

Yes many Indians starve to death through want, and lack of the basics.

But this thing has a priority of its own, not in the number of lives taken, but the way by a single act it subverts the whole state and tilts politics in India in the wrong direction. So I say to the Congress Party, for your own survival, conduct a huge security review, including RAW, CBI , Police, paramilitary and the armed forces.

Review what security arrangements have been signed, especially between 1998---2004, between India and Israel.

Distance RAW from the Israelis. Israel cannot teach India anything which India does not already know.

Review what security agreements the States of Gujarat and Maharashtra have with Israel. What they have signed officially and unofficially.

Review what has been signed and agreed between the Israelis and the Indian armed forces.

Failure to do so, will mean more attacks of this type, and India is the hostage of Israeli geo-strategy in the region.

Review the presence of 60,000 Israelis in India. Who are they? What do they do?

Review the presence of evangelicals in India who have strong links with Zionists. (Christian Zionists)

Indian national leaders look confused and perplexed when these things happen, grappling to explain to the public situations which they obviously can't explain and manage..........not good, and can't go on for ever.

................And a 1000 more Modi's appear.

Secular India goodbye.

India, eternal India.

One does not have to be actually in a country to truly admire and cherish it. The subliminal messages of Raj Kapoor films, or otherwise, where circumstances do not allow, and will not allow, and there ARE no plans to go there, as stated many times before. Of the actions of Israel and their agents in India and so forth. One must be more careful of what one watches, as there are twitchy retards all around, and equally Indians must be more careful in not propagating tensions with Pakistan, through Bollywood. Border, LoC Kargil, Mission Kashmir and Lakshaya......so on. I know Bollywood is run by underworld gangsters, but even so one must do better.

But the connections with India are eternal! That cannot be changed ever.

Maharastra is a big Indian state in the center of India. It is rich containing the stock market and film industry of India, and a manufacturing hub. Mumbhai/Bombay is the capital.

On a darker note the state is home to the RSS, with its headquarters in Pune, and Bombay two key cities they control, an extreme fascist group who think Hitler was a great leader. Until 1989, they were not noticed by the Indian electorate.

Their two greatest skill is to be provocative about certain issues. This is how the scam works: You get one of your people from the RSS to ask a suggestive question, and then the Indian celebrity (usually always a celebrity who gives the wrong answer, or is misquoted) and lo you declare that Indian celebrity anti-Indian, and in addition you get good publicity for your organization as a noble ever vigilant vanguard against the "enemies of India". The other scam is more basic. Find uneducated illiterate Muslims, or immigrants and just attack them, what the hell, you control the area, and attacking fellow Indians who happen to be very poor.......................in a nutshell that is the sum total of their "national service".

Of course every country has their share of nutjobs. They are evenly spread around the world.

There have been recent developments which make the RSS not so peripheral. Politically since 1989, through their front the BJP they have had an impact on secular Indian politics, and have come to power through the BJP. Additionally they have developed closer links with Israel, especially since the 1990's.

Like a miracle when this friendship occurred, so did 'terrorist incidents' in, you guessed (you are becoming what they say is a $100,000 expert) in Mumbhai, the financial hub of India, and a hub of the RSS.

Means, motive and timing people. If these RSS people can kill Gandhiji for their cause, why not a few more Indians?

Indian elections are not too far away in 2009, and Modiji has been unmolested by the Indian authorities for his crimes in Gujarat. So whats the problem?

If such tactics reinforce your power base, why not?

Get some of the boys from the security forces with the logistics, and do it, right?

From: Aangirfan blog.















Lt Colonel Srikant Purohit of the Indian military was reportedly involved in several blasts.

When bombs go off in India there is a tendency to blame Moslems.

However, the evidence points to the terror being the work of people within the Indian military, the Hindu fascist movement, ........................................................

The September 2006 Malegaon bombings were a series of bomb blasts that took place in Malegaon, a town in the Indian state of Maharashtra, some 290 km to the northeast of Mumbai.

The explosions killed at least 37 people.

According to Maharashtra Police, in November 2006, the blasts were the work of the Student Islamic Movement of India.[1]

However, on 8 November, 2008, the Maharashtra Anti Terror Squad revealed that Lt Colonel Srikant Purohit of the Indian military was involved in a blast that killed people in Malegaon in September 2007.

The Anti Terror Squad indicts Purohit for supplying the RDX used in the blasts. (ATS Investigations show Purohit procured RDX /Indian officer held over blasts )

The Anti Terror Squad has also found out that Purohit attended secret meetings of the 'fascist' Hindu group Abhinav Bharat.

Now it is being reported that Lt Col Srikant Prasad Purohit, the Army officer arrested in the Malegaon case, was involved in other blasts as well. (More detained as Purohit probe spreads to blast in Nanded 2006 )

aangirfan: India falls in love with Israel and deserts Iran (BJP to be exact)

aangirfan: Mossad increases its control of India

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Additional comments from Messrs Mike Rivero at "What Really Happened" from the 26th November post among many other interesting articles:

"Why would this guy give out such an important piece of information as the total number of his associates? Knowing that number gives the counter-terrorist teams an advantage. " And their location.

Okay, here are the reason I think this is a false-flag operation by Mike Rivero.

1. Brand new terror groups have tight budgets (unless managed by state actors). This group, the "Deccan Muhajedeen" (sounds like a sports team, like Cleveland Indians or Cincinnati Pirates) appears from nowhere with a large force, fully automatic weapons, grenades, and intelligence resources on the scale of a nation state.(or from the Indian military/security forces)......................Maybe this group got lucky on their first attempt.

2. FOX News and CNN are now both reporting that the "terrorists" who took hostages at the Oberoi hotel were specifically seeking people with US and British passports. So, regardless of whatever the "Deccan Muhajedeen" claims their objective may be, the real agenda is to provoke a British and US response.(from their bases in Afghanistan)

3. The timing is suspect, occurring just when Bush needs an excuse to kick off one more war of Obama to have to deal with and certainly convenient timing for Israel, which sees Obama as far less likely to engage in more wars for Israel. And, for the last several; weeks Israel has been starving Gaza mercilessly, in advance of an obvious military action, and has kept reporters and even the Papel Envoy out of Gaza. (So this action is a distraction ploy, from the real crime in Gaza, containing 1.5 million people?)

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There is no national pride in playing the unwitting pawns of other peoples agenda's. South Asia is spiritually, geographically, culturally, racially and historically one entity. We ALL gain nothing by tearing ourselves apart, or allowing outsiders intrude in negative ways in our region.