Wrong timing but inevitable.

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The Government accused the RSS of terrorism within India, killing innocent civilians in order to pursue political agenda's (subtext: high treason and anti-national whilst professing to be the greatest ultra nationalists within India, who say they only do mere charity work).

The RSS hit back this week by accusing Sonia Meino and ManMohan Singh of being foreign controlled spies. Lovely jovley...lots of gossip flying, but is it all true?

The RSS is a Fascist outfit, and I have always thought was terrorist in belief. They killed Gandhi. They initiate riots which kill people. They initiate attacks in groups against public figures they don't agree with......what more prima facie evidence do you require? Since the 1990's, and their political rise via their front the BJP, there has been a simultaneous rise in so called "Islamic Terrorism" in India. Beyond Kashmir I happen to think that most of that is by them through their networks in India.

Congresses accusations are thus extremely valid and important in ultimately buffeting India's security scenario holistically. Congress doesn't want to be held hostage to RSS terrorism which wrongly blames Pakistan, which fundamentally affects Indian foreign policy.........and where the Congress government post Mumbai recently had to do heavy duty lifting work to extricate itself from another unnecessary war with Pakistan, with all the slippery slopes of circumstances involved, and voters queuing to the BJP subsequently benefiting.

You don't need boys in shorts marching up and down the street, with sticks to do "Charity work"......their favorite byline. Marching groups of people up and down the street is an expression of overt aggression, of militarism.......not charity.

On the other hand is Congress run by foreign owned spies......rather unfortunate, that such a serious and important accusation had to be made as a mere tit for tat against Congress raising the issue of RSS linked terrorism.

To ordinary plebs in India this looks like another round of political seasonal mud slinging; therefore best to be shrugged off, ignored and continue reading the cricketing and Bollywood columns. That would indeed be a shame.

I think both accusations are true, and therefore rather serious matters for India. I have hinted at them. Certainly in relation to Congress, it would not be a new phenomenon. KGB/Mitrokin Archivesand other sources suggest that Congress has been variously owned by foreign entities for quite a while. This would explain their poor performance in running India effectively. Between the 1960's to the late 1980's many Congress officials worked for the KGB. One presumes that influence has now been replaced by the USA, since especially 1991. So it would not be a surprise to find Sonia and ManMohan Singh working for the USA, as a prominent journalist hinted from India no less recently and cryptically.

You never know if we dig far enough we may even find that Jinnah certainly and Nehru maybe were both British agents???!!!

Let me get this straight.

The RSS birthed the BJP front, which since the 1990's has drawn India closer to Israel, and the USA. Since the 1990's LO........"Islamic terrorism" in India has also increased especially in once Jewish Mumbai. David Headley is an American agent, and many like me suspect the terrorism in Mumbai is the work of the RSS working with Mossad and the USA. On the other hand the Israelis and Americans also have influence in the Congress Party through Sonia and ManMohan Singh.

Then is it not the case of the Pot calling the kettle black.

OK OK on a rational balance of significance, if your serving PM and the Party President are both foreign spies then that is more of a serious security threat than if a few RSS functionaries worked with foreign entities in creating terrorism within India.

Here is an interesting post....have a read. It sort of goes every where.

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SONIA GANDHI AND MANMOHAN SINGH OF THE CIA?

Sonia Gandhi, President of India's Congress Party, and Bill Clinton.

On 11 November 2010, we learn more about alleged CIA control of top people in India.

K S Sudarshan, former leader of the Hindu nationalist RSS organisation, says that Sonia Gandhi works for the CIA.

(Congress seeks apology from former RSS chief for remark "Sonia, a CIA agent")

Prime Minister Singh

And some people believe that both prime minister Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi Are CIA Agents of Usa

Sonia Gandhi, 'born in Italy as Edvige Antonia Albina Maino', is President of India's Congress Party.

She is the widow of former prime minister Rajiv Gandhi.

In 2008, she was named the third most powerful woman in the world by Forbes magazine.

In 2004 her party appointed Manmohan Singh as Prime Minister.

Sudarshan

And, Sudarshan has charged Sonia with plotting assassination.

(sudarshan charges sonia of plotting assassination)

While talking with the media, K S Sudarshan accused Sonia Gandhi of plotting the assassinations of former prime minister Rajiv Gandhi and his mother Indira Gandhi .

Sudarshan claimed that Rajiv Gandhi had some doubts about Sonia and was thinking of separation.

Rajiv Gandhi

Sudarshan said that Sonia's 'father' was in jail at the time of her birth in 1944.

In 2005, there was a report of more alleged CIA activity relating to India.

According to "IntelliBriefs: Brijesh Mishra a CIA agent?" :

On 27 September 2001, Rahul Gandhi MP and his Columbian live in girl friend, Juanita alias Veronique, were arrested in United States of America's Logan airport in Boston, by the FBI.

Rahul had an Italian passport and was carrying suitcase full of dollars.

Rahul called his mother Sonia Gandhi in India.

After 'CIA agent' David Headley arranged the 2008 Mumbai attacks.

Sonia called Brijesh Mishra, the former National Security Advisor.

Rahul was released.

Brijesh Mishra has connections with Sonia Gandhi's Italian family through his daughter Jyotsna.

Brijesh Mishra holds a meeting with Tony Blair's Jewish security adviser Sir David Manning in New Delhi on July 10, 2002. Manning was in New York on 9 11 and saw the Twin Towers attacked.

Sonia Gandhi first declared her birth date as 1944 and birth place as Luciana.

This was confirmed by the Italian embassy.

Sonia Gandhi's name was Antonia Maino as per her birth certificate certificate.

Antonia Maino's father, who was a mason and a fascist, Signor Stefano Maino, was a prisoner-of-war in Russia from 1942 till Italy surrendered to the Allies in 1945.

Stefano Maino cannot be the father of Antonia Maino.

Sonia's date of birth and place of birth had to be changed to cover up this fact.

Her new date of birth became December 9, 1946, and her place of birth became Orbassano. ("IntelliBriefs: Brijesh Mishra a CIA agent?")

Rabinder Singh was a CIA spy within India's secret service (RAW).

From February to May 2004, Brijesh Mishra refused to authorize the arrest of Rabinder Singh.

Rabinder Singh was able to escape to the USA in mid May 2004. ("IntelliBriefs: Brijesh Mishra a CIA agent?")

Rajiv Gandhi

The late Rajiv Gandhi, while prime minister, (Manmohan Singh and Sonia Gandhi Are the CIA Agents of Usa) "stopped even the re-fuelling of American warplanes in Mumbai during the first Iraq War."

Reportedly, Rajiv Gandhi was assassinated by the CIA, Mossad and their friends.

"The inner circle of the Indian RAW ... were on the Mossad payroll." (Mossad in Sri Lanka Wake Up From Your Slumber)

Rajiv Gandhi, Prime Minister of India, 'was killed in 1991 by the Sri Lankan Tamil Tigers', who were said to be friends of the CIA and Mossad.

Justice Jain investigated the conspiracy to assassinate Gandhi.

(http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/DG13Df01.html)

Justice Jain came across evidence that one suspect known as Chandraswami had links with the CIA and Mossad, and through them with the LTTE (Tamil tigers).

Justice Jain 'seems convinced' that Chandraswami was involved.


Chandraswami.

According to Asia Times:

Justice Jain 'has linked Chandraswami with the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) in which arms dealer Adnan Kashoggi, several terrorist groups, and intelligence outfits like the CIA and Mossad had accounts.

'The money in it was used for terrorist operations and political assassinations. The report is quoted as saying that $4 million of Mr Kashoggi's money was transferred to the LTTE's accounts. Justice Jain had said this on the basis of a 130-page document prepared by US Senator John Kiri.

'The commission quotes evidence of former cabinet secretary Zafar Saiffullah who said Chandraswami had links with Mossad and the CIA, and that the government had received intercepts of wireless communication between Israel (where Mossad is based) and Jaffna (where the LTTE was operating till recently) which established Chandraswami's involvement...

'Money transactions in Chandraswami's name and his links with international arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi and the now defunct Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) have made the commission point an accusing finger...'

Kashmir.

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India needs to keep a decisive military presence "Up in the mountains" of Kashmir, because the next big war WILL be in the mountains, despite what the defense minister AK-47 Anthony thinks with his big ticket Jew coded naval purchases which make very little strategic sense. India needs to maintain at least 600,000 regular army in Kashmir. It simply does not make sense for a poor logistics based Third World military moving slowly, lacking significant transport planes, and helicopters to station it self in the plains of India, and then in a time of WAR for the 5TH time move slowly through the Choak points of Himachal/Jammu towards the theater of action in Kashmir................Does not make sense.

On the other hand security people by their nature are a breed apart. We hear stories of what American soldiers do to locals in Korea or Japan near their bases, and that the same must apply to Indian soldiers in Kashmir. Young men pumped up for war and violence, leading extremely monotone lives, poor food, lonely not seeing their wives & families for years........drawn largely from the common man of Indian society which is not particularly sophisticated at many levels, from the right of Indian society with perhaps RSS tendencies with some (Major Pirohit is an abberation ? As a serving fully paid military officer into 2010?).

These types of animals should not be stationed near civilians, especially in "sensitive" areas, but should be brought out from their remote camps in Kashmir ONLY when the needs arises. Kashmir is a big country, with many remote spots for military installations, but not near civilians.

One is not suggesting Indian soldiers should be pink underwear wearing Gandhis. Most emphatically they should be drawn from the "marshal races" of Indo-Aryan stock fighting aggressive wars in the defense of India.

But I do not favor using the Indian military in civilian areas. I do not favor using the Indian military in the Naxal/Maoist problem. It politicizes the military. Such problems should be dealt with by the police only, along with RAW, and more resources for the civilian population and local security.

The current Kashmir Valley problem dates back to 1989 when the victorious Pakistani military (ISI) in Afghanistan seeing the flight of a Kafir Superpower at the behest of the Afghan Mujaheddin which they had armed, trained and supported decided to divert some Jihadis to the Kashmir theater from Afghanistan. An estimated 80,000 people have died since, BUT the GENERAL TRAJECTORY over the last few years is a slow down of violence. Until very recently.

Leh is fine, Jammu is fine. The problem is the small Kashmir valley. Here India needs to show a little love and sensitivity to its own people. More money from the center, and a cutting of some slack. NO MILITARY in the area, no paramilitary BSF etc..........local Kashmiri police armed with AK-47 is sufficient to deal with any security problems. The Kashmiri insurgency is not armed with tanks and heavy stuff. There does not need to be highly provocative parades of Indian military through the Valley a day or two after yet another hapless civilian has been killed.........not good.

In Northern Ireland covering the 20 years 3,500 people died. 10,000 British troops were stationed there, and what the reality of the conflict was (Catholics 43% being discriminated against; poor job opportunities, economic opportunities, treated as second class citizens by Protestants 57% many of them Scottish/English settler descent) A lot of the deaths and violence were committed by..........BRITISH SECURITY.....ARMY/MI/INTELLIGENCE. I wrote about it at university. Rather than dealing with the fundamental grievances of the Catholics who were being treated as second class citizens in their own country, the British security system waged war against the Catholics and were the cause of most of the deaths in that province and the UK....MAYBE even 80%. YES stone throwing youths shot by British troops; youth had too much to drink, been to a party and did not slow down at the numerous....too many check points...killed by troops. There were even sinister hints that the IRA and Real IRA were in fact run by British Intelligence through their USA network.

Of the 40 odd resistance outfits in Kashmir many are run by RAW, for sure.

Majority of Kashmiris want peace. Most Valley Kashmiris don't want to join failed state Pakistan with its even greater levels of STATE instigated internal terrorism through the American run AND FUNDED ISI...........Huj and LeT are not independent entities operating on their own, BUT run by the ISI, which in turn is funded and run by the USA. Huj and LeT must not be seen as isolated aberrations but must be put in the context of the bigger picture.

A few people frustrated and angry shouting anti-India slogans in the Valley MEANS NOTHING, fundamentally. They are reacting to their natural situation, and India psychologically and quickly needs to separate them from the LeT/ISI menace through a variety of measures as hinted at.

Man Mohan Singh with his rather child like passion for the USA, is not the leader who is going to solve this problem in a million years. He is in fact going to let it fester as the night watchman keeping the seat warm for playboy Rahul.

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We, the bad guys

Indrajit Hazra of the Hindustan Times.

Oh, it’s not nice to be treated like a perpetrator. Especially when you’ve been weaned on tales of you being the victim. If the Shoah (Holocaust) has provided the Jews a protective sheath against any guilt for the Nakba (Catastrophe) of the Palestinians, it would be fair to say that India — victim of colonialism, victim of global capitalism, victim of terrorism, victim of plain old bad luck — is gobsmacked to even think that it could be the bad guy.

Right on top of every Kashmir pundit’s priority of worries is the concern that he may be seen as naive. So in a perpetual attempt to not be caught as a simpleton, we hear him say things that make the Kashmir problem complex. The very term ‘Kashmir problem’ itself is a giveaway. The pundits will yank things back to 1947, when the monarch of Jammu and Kashmir Hari Singh hastily gave into Nehru-Patel’s Princely State stamp-collecting spree to protect his independent kingdom from Yusufzai raiders sent by Pakistan to expand its two-nation theory eastwards into Muslim-majority Kashmir. The pundits will talk about Pakistan, the anachronistic diplospeak of ‘plebiscite’, the need or not for ‘tripartite talks’, the Simla Accord, Pakistan, terrorism, Kargil, the Agra summit, ‘vested interests’ and, for good measure, more Pakistan.

But never in their living daylights are they able to realise the wisdom of that old chestnut of William of Occam: the simplest explanation is usually the correct one. And in the context of what’s happening in Sopore, Srinagar and other parts of the Kashmir Valley since July, the simplest explanation — a.k.a. a simple observation — is: people are protesting against police forces killing people who are protesting against police forces killing people who...

This isn’t a chicken-and-egg cycle. It’s a variation of Newton’s third law of motion: every police action of death or disappearance has an opposite, if hardly equal, reaction of stones hurled at policeman and violent mobs beating them up and burning down police stations.

It’s difficult to think that the stones being hurled at security personnel have been smuggled in from Pakistan or that their hurlers, overwhelmingly teenagers but most visibly younger kids, are all being mobilized or goaded on by nefarious agents of the ISI. When you see the corpse of an eight-year-old boy, killed in a stampede caused by police firing on protestors, wrapped in white funereal cloth being carried by crowds, you come to either of the two conclusions: that the people who think that the policemen and their bosses are the victims must be mad; or, that by simply hurling stones at those who have, since July 11, regularly killed civilians — just to underline the fact that these people haven’t yet morphed into ‘terrorists’ or ‘insurgents’ — Kashmiris are mad to have stopped at stone-throwing, police-beating and burning down police stations. We can think of doing those kind of things in helpless anger when stuck in bad traffic.

You don’t have to be a Kashmiri pundit to realise that a new generation of Kashmiris are thrashing out against a high-handed ‘shut up or we shoot’ force. To think that all this is being orchestrated by a Geelani or an Alam or an Andrabi is like believing that the anti-Soviet mujaheddin in 80s Afghanistan were working solely for an American purpose. It’s one thing to make hay while the sun shines and quite another to be the sun shining.

You do have to be a proverbial Kashmiri pundit to figure out why on earth New Delhi is not pulling out of the Valley. But surely you don’t have to be the (strangely quiet?) prime minister to know who are the victims here. A week away from India’s Independence Day and 79 days away from Jammu and Kashmir’s Dependence Day (J&K acceded to India on October 26, 1947), young Kashmiris with forceful and angry bowling actions don’t much care for history like they did some 20 years ago. All they care for is not one of their own to be shot dead by what any fool can see to be an occupying force.

Hypocracy and neo-imperialist arrogance.

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Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first, to reduce tensions in the region so that Pakistan can continue fighting a fake war on behalf of America. India never moved substantial troops to the border of Pakistan in the first place after Mumbai 26/11, as stated by the head of the Indian army, and indeed it was Pakistan which actually moved some troops to the Indian border in anticipation of an Indian backlash. In all events India must maintain her vigilance against cross border insurgency, especially in Kashmir, and in addition heightened vigilance along the whole of the Indo-Pak border in light of the security situation in the region.

Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first, and direct India as to what she must do with her defense strategy, and troop deployment when the country advising is in a fine royal mess in Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place, strategically.

Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first, to ease negative apprehensions on Pakistan's part, when America unofficially for free has been pouring $10 billion worth of arms into Pakistan since 2001, arms systems which are then directed against India.

Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first, when America has been pouring in economic aid into Pakistan, some of which could then lead to further arms purchases by the Pakistan military. $15 billion for the next 10 years; $5 billion one off payment and $7.6 billion IMF loans, in addition to Gulf State loans unspecified.

Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first, when America through the Pakistan military for the better part of 30 years or more has been encouraging the arming and funding of some very extreme radical fundamentalist Islamic groups, some of which operate against India, and the resultant death of up to 50,000 Kashmiris, and the huge cost of maintaining 500,000 security forces in Kashmir by India.

Its is the height of impertinence to inform India that she must withdraw troops from the Pakistan border first when the USA destabilizes Pakistan and replaces one USA puppet, Busharaf with another USA/UK puppet, Zardari whose well known sleazy background and less than one year in office performance leaves much to be desired. His ascendancy into power has allowed certain extremist elements in Pakistan to become very bold recently under a weak government in Islamabad, and which also subsequently concerns and impacts on India. India for better or for worse was happy with Musharaf, as at least under him India knew who was in charge in Pakistan and whom to hold to account. Zardari from India's perspective apprehends insecurity and uncertainty.

There is much hype and talk by the American media and the Anglophone media and "Bollywood" in India of a "strategic partnership" and a warming of friendship between India and the USA, beyond the fourth grade promise however of making India into a great power by the USA, in the substantive matters, briefly highlighted above where it counts its been quite the opposite with a flourish and a smile.

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US asks India to pull back troops from Pak border

NDTV Correspondent

India has come under unexpected pressure from the US; NDTV has learnt that the Indian Foreign Secretary Shivshankar Menon has been told that it's India, and not Pakistan that should make the first moves towards restoring peace.

The US has asked India to pullback troops from the Pakistan border.

Outraged, India has told US that Pakistan is responsible for tension between the two countries. India has also told the US that it hadn't deployed extra troops after the Mumbai attacks. Rather it was Pakistan which has sent thousands of troops.

However, India on Thursday also clarified the Mumbai terror attacks had nothing to do with its relationship with Pakistan.

But External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee has said that India still believes terrorists used Pakistani soil and infrastructure in that country to launch the 26/11 attacks.

The reason for the latest US move is that President Barack Obama is gearing up to launch a bigger military offensive in Afghanistan.

For this, he needs more Pakistani troops to help along the volatile Afghan-Pakistan border, troops, which Islamabad moved to the Indian border.

It's obvious that America has its own compulsions at this point that have led it to put pressure on India in this manner.

Security Review.

So what the Congress Party has to do quietly, is a massive security review.

Yes 100,000 Indian farmers die each year, because they can't meet their unfair debt commitments.

Yes 60,000 Indians are killed each year from homicide.

Yes many Indians starve to death through want, and lack of the basics.

But this thing has a priority of its own, not in the number of lives taken, but the way by a single act it subverts the whole state and tilts politics in India in the wrong direction. So I say to the Congress Party, for your own survival, conduct a huge security review, including RAW, CBI , Police, paramilitary and the armed forces.

Review what security arrangements have been signed, especially between 1998---2004, between India and Israel.

Distance RAW from the Israelis. Israel cannot teach India anything which India does not already know.

Review what security agreements the States of Gujarat and Maharashtra have with Israel. What they have signed officially and unofficially.

Review what has been signed and agreed between the Israelis and the Indian armed forces.

Failure to do so, will mean more attacks of this type, and India is the hostage of Israeli geo-strategy in the region.

Review the presence of 60,000 Israelis in India. Who are they? What do they do?

Review the presence of evangelicals in India who have strong links with Zionists. (Christian Zionists)

Indian national leaders look confused and perplexed when these things happen, grappling to explain to the public situations which they obviously can't explain and manage..........not good, and can't go on for ever.

................And a 1000 more Modi's appear.

Secular India goodbye.