Showing posts with label Hilary Clinton and Pakistan policy. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Hilary Clinton and Pakistan policy. Show all posts

May 30, 2010

An immediate threat, or a preparatory signal to attack Pakistan in the future?

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The WaPo is a mouth piece front for gossip and posturing for sections of the American intelligence community and Jewish elite of the JEWSA. Most of what it writes is pure fiction, but also crucially represents the views and perspectives of certain important people in the JEWSA who through this particular paper articulate and sound out their fundamental policies to the rest of America.

It played a prominent role in the fake drum beat towards war against Iraq.


That Secretary of State Clinton should be threatening Pakistan with unilateral attacks, just as she has been doing for a couple of years Iran and North Korea is no surprise.

NORTH KOREA is belligerent and tough in the face of USA threats, and is backed by China.

IRAN is belligerent and tough in the face of USA threats, and is backed by Syria, Turkey increasingly it seems, and Russia China to an extent.





PAKISTAN
on the other hand is the proverbial monkey dancing to the American organ grinder. The more the Americans grind their repulsive tune of endless attacks against Pakistani civilians, AND shouting/demanding orders for endless security ops in the NWFP the more the Pakistani monkey dances........lacking the common sense and wit that this is all heading towards ultimate KIAMAT and total disaster for Pakistan
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The Pakistani military and Zardari cannot see that the simultaneous attacks by America and the Pakistani military against the Pakistani people is there to weaken the long term cohesion and survival of the Pakistani state.

The USA has been attacking Pakistan slowly especially since 2006, through destabilization and infiltration under the guise of being an essential friend of Pakistan.

The average Pakistani (90%) applying his simple common sense actually know this reality, but the top brass of the Pakistani military trained in the UK/USA can't see this, and..............OR or as with the top politicians of the PPP have simply been bought with big fat Swiss bank accounts. Zardari is protected by mercenary Christian Fundamentalist American forces based in and around Islamabad, not by Pakistani security.

Under International Law, affirmed by cases after cases Pakistan has a duty to aid, shelter, feed and arm the Afghan resistance against any alien occupying power in Afghanistan under the principles of "Self Determination", just as Pakistan did with the Afghan resistance under Soviet occupation 1980--1989. In 9 years of war the Soviet Union never murmured once about Pakistan's training of 85,000 Mujaheddin fighters and 12,000 Jihadis from various Muslim countries, armed and funded by the USA, Israel and the Gulf countries.

The Soviet Union after 9 years of fighting lost 20,000 dead/MIA and 50,000 wounded in Afghanistan.

The USA after 9 years of fighting has lost 1000 dead and about 3000 wounded in Afghanistan..........but is already complaining that it is Pakistan's fault for "not doing enough" or Iran's fault. For good measure as a strategy of pressure and blackmail the USA has also carried out a false flag terror op in NY and blamed it on the TTP, which also regularly claims to carry out terror ops within Pakistan very successfully, unlike the NY fizzle bomb.

The TTP is believed to be an American intelligence front made of ex-Guantanamo detainees who have subsequently been turned, and thus given freedom.

The criminal Kleptocracy of Zardari along with the all powerful military fully and mysteriously cooperates with this fake narrative AGAINST PAKISTAN'S INTERESTS without the slightest bit of murmur or public contradiction............just like trained monkey's to the American organ grinder.

The Pakistani elite and media by aiding the JEWSA with the "al-Qaeda" myth, and sending the same Jehadis into Indian Kashmir since 1989, have turned what was wholly a domestic Afghan resistance movement with very specific local intentions, dominated and run by Pakistan for Pakistan.......have inadvertently conflated the Afghan Taliban through the miscalculated policies of the Pakistan military with international terrorism. The slippery JEWSA is merely exploiting this miscalculation.

I have always argued that the Pakistanis need to disengage from the USA fully, rather than try to maintain the rather paradoxical, unsustainable and one may say deeply dishonest position of being on the one hand an ally of the USA taking billions $ worth of aid, allowing American military personnel and mercenaries into sensitive parts of the country, whilst simultaneously hosting the Taliban Afghan Shura in Quetta, who are directly responsible for the death of American servicemen in Afghanistan.

It can't go on like this.

Pakistan logically needs to eject the Taliban Afghan Shura, even if they are not related to the TTP......... ........even if they clearly have no internationalist pretensions, and therefore highly unlikely to have undertaken the false flag attack in NY recently.

The slippery bankrupt JEWSA is desperate, and is groping around for any excuse to attack Pakistan MORE COMPREHENSIVELY, then the current levels through drone attacks.


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U.S. To Plan Pakistan Strike

White House eyes retaliation if Taliban pull off major strike inside U.S.

By GREG MILLER (Hopefully not related to Judith Miller)

"Washington Post --- The U.S. military is reviewing options for a unilateral strike in Pakistan in the event that a successful attack on American soil is traced to the country's tribal areas, according to senior military officials.

(Thats been the talk since 2004 at least, and is building momentum as more American servicemen and mercenaries swamp Pakistan, and the Zardari government becomes more dependent on USA largess------the actual ultimate objective is of course to secure Pakistan's nukes for Israel {an Israeli objective since the 1970's}, so that in the event of an Israeli nuclear attack against Iran {Israeli nuclear armed submarines are already in the Persian Gulf} Pakistan won't be able to come to the rescue of Iran in any possible way.......as it will have been occupied quietly by the USA .......also an Israeli attack on Iran will obviously have political repercussions on Pakistan, a neighbor.

Also we must remember that Bush in his secret talks with Blair in January 2003 and subsequently leaked by 2 British civil servants, did say that after Iraq, Iran would be invaded, and then Pakistan.......thus the objective has not changed, but the time line has.

In signing the pipeline deal with Iran after 16 years of hard negotiation, perhaps Pakistan is signaling that it does not want to obediently wait in the queue, after Iran is attacked to be occupied by the USA eventually.......though the security cooperation with Iran is superficial and Kiyani has no linkages with his counterparts in Iran. Common sense again tells us that since both countries are on the "list" of to do and attack by the USA that both countries should fully cooperate in the security sphere. This is natural survival instinct, not even high politics and sophisticated strategizing.

OF course there will be counter measures to create schism between the two....such as Shia/Sunni animosity, but the two must act clearly for their mutual interests )


Ties between the alleged Times Square bomber, Faisal Shahzad, and elements of the Pakistani Taliban have sharpened the Obama administration's need for retaliatory options, the officials said.

(Disinformation-----There are no ties; TTP have not taken credit, realizing even as American intelligence fronts the very serious nature for them {being attacked by the Pakistan military and the American military simultaneously} should such acts be traced back to them......Shahzad's sheer amateurish and inexplicable action in NY suggests he had no training in Pakistan under the TTP, and the TTP have not claimed him as their own......the TTP understands that their job for the USA is to destabilize Pakistan which they have successfully done since 2006...........NOT conduct attacks against the USA, which logistically as puppets of the USA they are wholly incapable of doing, but as OBL found out in 2001 which he subsequently denied to the Pakistani media, the American's often have a habit of changing the job description of their created puppets without telling their puppets.......

Warning to Kiyani

Warning to Zardari

But as Musharaf found out in 2007-8, as Zia ul Haq found out, as Ayub Khan found out eventually..."Friends not Masters")


They stressed that a U.S. reprisal would be contemplated only under extreme circumstances, such as a catastrophic attack that leaves President Obama convinced that the ongoing campaign of CIA drone strikes is insufficient.

(The American security state is so huge consuming perhaps as much as $1.5 trillion each year, and so sophisticated according to Chalmers Johnson {ex-CIA analyst} that it simply is not possible for two bit organizations such as the TTP to conduct terror ops in the USA. The TTP it must be repeated again and again is an American intelligence front created out of ex-Guantanamo detainees to attack Pakistani targets within Pakistan, and thus squeeze Pakistan towards the USA's way of thinking...............nearly ALL the big and medium terror ops in the USA are conducted by the USA government for specific agenda's.......introducing MRE security laws which give the state greater powers, and puts potential foreign targets on their back foot....Afghanistan 2001, Iraq 2003, Iran, Pakistan, Syria and so on)

"Planning has been reinvigorated in the wake of Times Square," one of the officials said..............(this has been ongoing since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, and when the Clinton's came to power in 1993.......2010)

'(Con)Fusion centers' (centers for destabilization of Pakistan)

At the same time, the administration is trying to deepen ties to Pakistan's intelligence officials in a bid to head off any attack by militant groups. The United States and Pakistan have recently established a joint military intelligence center on the outskirts of the northwestern city of Peshawar, and are in negotiations to set up another one near Quetta, the Pakistani city where the Afghan Taliban is based, according to the U.S. military officials. They and other officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity surrounding U.S. military and intelligence activities in Pakistan.

(The ISI was created by the departing British Raj, as its primary instrument of influence in its former colony.......so London saab was its initial master, so that in the early 1950's it destabilized civilian governments and paved the way for eventual military takeover of Pakistan in 1958, with Washington's blessing.

With increased American military and economic aid $4 billion 1950--1969, naturally the USA became the master of the ISI.

At present the USA is the absolute master of the ISI, as the USA bankrolls most of its operations.

The ISI DOES NOTHING WITHOUT THE PERMISSION OF THE USA.

The ISI runs the Afghan Taliban for the USA, but not the Pakistan Taliban which is run directly by the USA.

In internet lingo the Afghan Taliban are known as "ineffective Controlled Opposition".....by the USA, and that is why THEY HAVE A SAFE HAVEN IN QUETTA DIRECTLY UNDER THE NOSES OF THE Americans for 9 uninterrupted years.

Further for the Pakistani people to win real freedom, and avoid being a perennial nuisance to her neighbors {India, Afghanistan, Iran}........ALL USA Western aid,..... military and economic must be severed.

For the Pakistani people to win real freedom, and avoid being a perennial nuisance to her neighbors......ALL senior figures within government must be trained in Pakistan and not sent on refresher course to London and the USA, where they develop their official mindset and lingo........Gilani, Kiyani, Haqqani, Zardari.......fine Iranian sounding names....how about acting like the actual people?

For the Pakistani people to win real freedom, and avoid being a perennial nuisance to her neighbors......Pakistan needs to disengage from the American led security operations within Pakistan)

The "fusion centers" are meant to bolster Pakistani military operations by providing direct access to U.S. intelligence, including real-time video surveillance from drones controlled by the U.S. Special Operations Command, the officials said. But in an acknowledgment of the continuing mistrust between the two governments, the officials added that both sides also see the centers as a way to keep a closer eye on one another, as well as to monitor military operations and intelligence activities in insurgent areas.

Obama said during his campaign for the presidency that he would be willing to order strikes in Pakistan, and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said in a television interview after the Times Square attempt that "if, heaven forbid, an attack like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences."

Obama dispatched his national security adviser, James L. Jones, and CIA Director Leon Panetta to Islamabad this month to deliver a similar message to Pakistani officials, including President Asif Ali Zardari and the military chief, Gen. Ashfaq Kiyani.

Jones and Panetta also presented evidence gathered by U.S. law enforcement and intelligence agencies that Shahzad received significant support from the Pakistani Taliban.

Retaliatory blows (major intrusion into Pakistani sovereign territory)

The U.S. options for potential retaliatory action rely mainly on air and missile strikes, but could also employ small teams of U.S. Special Operations troops already positioned along the border with Afghanistan. One of the senior military officials said plans for military strikes in Pakistan have been revised significantly over the past several years, moving away from a "large, punitive response" to more measured plans meant to deliver retaliatory blows against specific militant groups.


The official added that there is a broad consensus in the U.S. military that airstrikes would at best erode the threat posed by al-Qaeda and its affiliates, and risk an irreparable rupture in the U.S. relationship with Pakistan.

"The general feeling is that we need to be circumspect in how we respond so we don't destroy the relationships we've built" with the Pakistani military, the second official said.

U.S. Special Operations teams in Afghanistan have pushed for years to have wider latitude to carry out raids across the border, arguing that CIA drone strikes do not yield prisoners or other opportunities to gather intelligence. But a 2008 U.S. helicopter raid against a target in Pakistan prompted protests from officials in Islamabad who oppose allowing U.S. soldiers to operate within their country.

The CIA has the authority to designate and strike targets in Pakistan without case-by-case approval from the White House. U.S. military forces are currently authorized to carry out unilateral strikes in Pakistan only if solid intelligence were to surface on any of three high-value targets: al-Qaeda leaders Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri, or Taliban chief Mohammad Omar. But even in those cases, the military would need higher-level approval.

"The bottom line is you have to have information about targets to do something [and] we have a process that remains cumbersome," said one of the senior military officials. "If something happens, we have to confirm who did it and where it came from. People want to be as precise as possible to be punitive."

U.S. spy agencies have engaged in a major buildup inside Pakistan over the past year. The CIA has increased the pace of drone strikes against al-Qaeda affiliates, a campaign supported by the arrival of new surveillance and eavesdropping technology deployed by the National Security Agency.

The fusion centers are part of a parallel U.S. military effort to intensify the pressure on the Taliban and other groups accused of directing insurgent attacks in Afghanistan. U.S. officials said that the sharing of intelligence goes both ways and that targets are monitored in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Delicate trade off

In the Peshawar fusion cell, which was set up within the last several months, Pakistanis have access to "full-motion video from different platforms," including unarmed surveillance drones, one official said.


The fusion centers also serve a broader U.S. aim: making the Pakistanis more dependent on U.S. intelligence, and less likely to curtail Predator drone patrols or other programs that draw significant public opposition.

To Pakistan, the fusion centers offer a glimpse of U.S. capabilities, as well as the ability to monitor U.S. military operations across the border. "They find out much more about what we know," one of the senior U.S. military officials said. "What we get is physical presence -- to see what they are actually doing versus what they say they're doing."

That delicate arrangement will be tested if the two sides reach agreement on the fusion center near Quetta. The city has served for nearly a decade as a sanctuary for Taliban leaders who fled Afghanistan in 2001 and have long-standing ties to Pakistan's powerful Inter-Services Intelligence directorate.

U.S. officials said that the two sides have done preliminary work searching for a suitable site for the center but that the effort is proceeding at a pace that one official described as "typical Pakistani glacial speed." Despite the increased cooperation, U.S. officials say they continue to be frustrated over Pakistan's slow pace in issuing visas to American military and civilian officials.

One senior U.S. military official said the center would be used to track the Afghan Taliban leadership council, known as the Quetta shura. But other officials said the main mission would be to support the U.S. military effort across the border in Kandahar, Afghanistan, where a major U.S. military push is planned.

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The more Pakistan entangles itself with the JEWSA in security and at all other levels, the more problems will multiply as the JEWSA tries out its base instincts and ego against ordinary Pakistanis in the service of Israel.

Apr 24, 2009

Hilary tells it like it is, sort of.

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By Hilary Clinton clarifying the issue in terms of its true nature than a better understanding can be made of the Pakistani problem. Pouring more money no matter how well intentioned is not going to solve the problems of Pakistan, and one thinks of South Vietnam during 1963-1975.

Some of Pakistan's national problems:

1. Terrorism
2. Religious Intolerance/religious fatalism, "Allah Hukum's"
3. Water Shortage
4. Inflation
5. Corruption
6. Provincial Disharmony---relationship between center and state etc.
7. Devalued Currency
8. Unemployment
9. Low Education levels/low government investments in education/madrases funded by Saudi Arabia.
10.Weak inconsistent Foreign Policy/ the foreign policy preferred by the military and that preferred by the civilian government.
11. Rogue corrupt military./huge military 800,000 unofficially, 300,000 paramilitary---their involvement in politics covertly, and economic activity.
12. ISI.
13. Failed state characteristics.
14. Foreign interference...USA/UK.
15. Rapid population growth......400 million by 2050.
16. Poor governance, especially by the center.
17. Poorly performing agricultural sector.
18. Post colonial elite...which has no fealty to Pakistan.
19. Poor infrastructure.
20. Small industrial base...low investment in this sector.
21. Weak financial system.
22. Capital flight.
23. Feudal society----backward, culturally and psychologically.
24. Aid dependent...foreign assistance.
25. Weak Civil society.
26. Weak compromised judiciary/justice system.
27. Corrupt and incompetent, lowly paid post-colonial police force.
28. Widespread malnutrition....stunted growth among children/poor health care.

What Pakistan really requires is competent effective administration which is not corrupt, with the full overt public backing of the USA. Zardari the felon who clearly is not competent needs to be replaced with a better team which should run Pakistan, for everybody's interests.

Sharif my do marginally better, but he also has his faults. Like Zardari, he too is a billionaire without doing a lot of business............however one does feel he will be better than Zardari, and he will make better use of the USA's investments in Pakistan.

  • Sharif never served two complete terms in office, so the two term rule clearly does not apply to him.
  • There are accusations that he tried to amass too much power whilst in office especially between 1996-1999, like almost those that of a dictator. I am going to give him a pass over this one because in light of the situation in Pakistan, where the military dominate I wouldn't blame him in trying to centralize and increase his power.
  • There are persistent accusations that he is in reality a "soft fundamentalist" who was in favor of introducing sharia law into Pakistan...............well the reality is that in his two terms in office he actually didn't introduce Sharia law in the whole of Pakistan, though clearly he intended to do so. He is however close to Wahabi Saudi Arabia, and is a protege of Zia ul Haq, the military general who introduced from the 1970's the Islamization of Pakistan. Perhaps the passage of time has convinced him that the introduction of Sharia laws will not begin to solve Pakistan's fundamental problems stated above but will merely intensify them. Further the introduction of sharia law will only embolden the extremist religious elements who will see the introduction of such laws as a tacit government approval of their agenda's, groups such as the Taliban who of course have no intention what so ever of sharing power with other parties (Afghanistan 1994-2001, Iran 1979--2009). Sharia law introduction was certainly the talk of the town in the 1980's and 1990's, and who can blame Sharif in trying to introduce it in light of his background and right wing credentials. However he must realize that in Pakistan's special case the introduction of Sharia law will have dangerous consequences for the country if he were to introduce it now.
  • There are persistent rumors and allegations, and court action over the years which state that Nawaz Sharif is corrupt, just like most civilian Pakistani politicians, and that as such he is no exception. He is among the richest men in Pakistan, and is part of the 30 "Commercial" families, where through political wheeling and dealing he amassed his wealth, and not through good honest business acumen, so the allegation goes. Well what can one say except if anybody ever finds the solution to the age old problem of politicians and corruption, they will most certainly be awarded the Nobel Prize for political economics.

Pakistan was a failed state before the USA invested in fundamentalists..........so the fundamental problems of Pakistan goes beyond the problem of the Pakistani backed fundamentalists groups operating in Pakistan, Afghanistan and India. The fundamental structural problems of Pakistan will not go away with the Taliban's disappearance, but their mere presence highlights the clear weaknesses and failures of the state as a failed state number 9.

The racism of American and British officials and how they relate to the country plays a significant part, but ultimately it is the Pakistanis who must see the problems of their country, and confront it together arm in arm.


Here is a unique change of policy that fights terror more effectively in Pakistan. We know clearly the link between the Pakistan military ISI and the Taliban, so why give the Pakistan military more military aid......................so that they can further pretend to be fighting the Taliban.........."We have killed 40 extremists today in X, Y, Z part of the North West Frontier, blah, blah, blah"...........can the Pakistan military be believed, after the Swat surrender? Why not divert that security aid to the Pakistani police? Lets bolster their wages.....from $150 a month to $300 a month, through American security assistance. Better training, better wages, better equipment to fight terror inside Pakistan if Pakistan is indeed the most dangerous country in the world. Absolutely no sense in giving this security aid to the Pakistan military who will of course use it against India, as before under Bush's military aid to Pakistan.

In fact lets take this a little further. Instead of giving the assistance to the central government of Pakistan, the $7.6 billion IMF loan; the $7.5 billion USA ; the $3 billion military assistance and finally the $5.28 billion very recently....why not make these $ aid really count and give the money to the state governments in Pakistan who will use the money more effectively, in fighting terror and expenditure on social welfare programs. The huge amounts of money given to Zardari will be wasted, and his central government will not utilize it properly either because they are incompetent or because of corruption, or both.

As to the USA role in Pakistan that has clearly been negative.........


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USA also responsible for current situation in Pak: Hillary.

By Times of India



Even as she came out strongly against the Pakistani establishment for lagging willingness to take head on the terrorists, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Friday said that the US was also partly responsible for the present mess as it virtually abandoned Pakistan after the Soviets left Afghanistan.

"There is a very strong argument, which is: It wasn't a bad investment to end the Soviet Union, but let's be careful what we sow, because we will harvest. So we then left Pakistan. We said, okay, fine, you deal with the Stingers that we've left all over your country. You deal with the mines that are along the border. And by the way, we don't want to have anything to do with you," Clinton said testifying before a Congressional committee.

After the downfall of the Soviet Union, Clinton said the US stopped dealing with the Pakistani military and with the ISI.
"We can point fingers at the Pakistanis, which is -- you know, I did some yesterday, frankly. And it's merited, because we're wondering why they don't just get out there and deal with these people. But the problems we face now, to some extent, we have to take responsibility for having contributed to," she said.

Clinton said the US has a history of moving in and out of Pakistan. "I mean, let's remember here, the people we are fighting today we funded 20 years ago. We did it because we were locked in this struggle with the Soviet Union. They invaded Afghanistan, and we did not want to see them control Central Asia, and we went to work," she said. "It was President (Ronald) Reagan, in partnership with the Congress, led by Democrats, who said, you know what? Sounds like a pretty good idea. Let's deal with the ISI and the Pakistani military, and let's go recruit these mujahidin. And great, let's get some to come from Saudi Arabia and other places, importing their Wahhabi brand of Islam, so that we can go beat the Soviet Union. And guess what? They retreated. They lost billions of dollars, and it led to the collapse of the Soviet Union," Clinton said. And what is happening in Pakistan today is a result of that policy, she acknowledged, so the US should also take a part of the responsibility.