Oct 1, 2009

Military history repeating itself; Vietnam revisited.

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McChrystal's (ball folly and) Myth.
by Jeff Huber at Antiwar.com
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There is no such thing as a "victory" in the kinds of wars we're fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. The best one can hope for in these types of conflicts – counterinsurgency efforts in far-flung corners of the globe with fuzzy objectives and vague necessity – is to not be seen as having "lost." For that to happen, unfortunately, you have to stick around for so long and fade away so gradually that, by the time you leave, nobody notices you're gone.
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(NO, the USA can leave immediately and still "win"
1. The American military is in Afghanistan because of Afghan Opium/Heroin worth about $50 --$80 billion a year once it is sold in the streets of Europe and North America, transported by American military planes....."Opium wars" redux.
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The British armed forces have cherry picked Helmand province in Southern Afghanistan to base their "counter-insurgency" operations, which is coincidentally the highest poppy growing area in Afghanistan, and since their presence there, production of Opium/Heroin has increased, a few hundred fold and heroin is now far cheaper in the streets of Britain, so we can make some basic deductive assumptions around these facts.
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The American taxpayer pays for the operation in Afghanistan, and fights these wars, whilst a few criminals in the Pentagon and civilians allied to them profit from them.......the cliche quote......"War is a racket" by General Smedley Butler. In such a scenario obviously most people trying to justify such costly operations would be groping around with cock and bull BS excuses to be in Afghanistan......including the likes of McChrystal, which for rational Americans would not make sense.

2. Iraq was about the Israeli desire for historical revenge for the Jewish peoples enslavement by the Assyrians, and the elimination of a regional rival with potential nuclear programs, and WMD programs generally. Iraq by 1990 had 1.1 million men under arms, 6000 tanks, 4,000 artillery pieces, 550 jets and extensive WMD programs as a result of the Iran/Iraq war, and exclusively in response to much larger, more populous, more powerful Iran.....but Israel was scared/shitting in the pants about this Iraqi might and wanted it neutralized via America.
There are some indications that Saddam was an American installed agent, indicated by the fact that he sought American "permission" to invade Kuwait in 1990, amongst other information, which the American ambassador April Gillespie gave informally, when she met Saddam in July 1990.)

The neoconservative apparatus that got us into Iraq for reasons we still haven’t decided on threatens to keep us in Afghanistan indefinitely for reasons yet to be determined. Everything we’re doing in Central and Southwest Asia supposedly has something to do with eradicating al-Qaeda, yet there is
no sign of al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. The argument for persisting in Afghanistan says that we have to make sure al-Qaeda doesn’t go back there, yet as former CIA officer Philip Giraldi recently noted, credible assessments suggest that "Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda has likely been reduced to a core group of eight to ten terrorists who are on the run more often than not."
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(al-Qaeda as an "organization" with a coherent structure and a clear doctrine does not exist in the Vietcong sense, ANC sense, or Hezbollah sense, never did, but is an elaborate hologram to justify American military operations in certain countries.
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12,000 mostly Arabs were trained by the Americans/Israelis/ Pakistanis during the 1980's and into the 1990's, initially fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan in a "Jehad". Of these approximately 7,000 went back to their own countries settling down into civilian life, getting married etc....doing the 9---5....or causing problems for those Muslim countries.....Algeria, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia,Yemen, Indonesia......and so on.
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Of the remaining 5,000 in Afghanistan, these courtesy of Iran/America were covertly shipped to the Balkans to fight "infidels" in Bosnia and Kosovo, and act as the Taliban's shock troops to consolidate the country in the 1990's.
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It is these 5,000 men who were labelled as "al-Qaeda" from 2000/2001, but nearly all of them fought the Soviets in Afghanistan, and then in Bosnia, Kosovo NOT as al-Qaeda, and NOT linked to Osama Bin Laden directly under a clear command structure, taking orders from him.......and NOT involved in any terrorist ops targeting Western assets or civilians. These men if they have been guided by anyone it is the ISI/Pakistan military, which operates under the direction of American/Israeli intelligence/military.
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Thus it is more exact and correct to say that "al-Qaeda" is a Western/Israeli intelligence hologram front, assisted critically by the ISI. Of these 5,000, many are now dead, a few captured and the rest either in Iran, Pakistan or have returned to their countries of origin.
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So in summary .......
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1. The 5,000 who served in "al-Qaeda" could be termed Islamic fundamentalist like Osama, with similar ideological backgrounds........fighting infidels and saving Muslim lands.
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2. However they are not "al-Qaeda" because there is no evidence that such an organization with a clear command structure ever existed, beyond Osama's immediate fellow travelers of a dozen. There is no clear evidence that the 5,000 accepted Osama as their leader, or took any orders from him.
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3. The terrorist ops in NE America 2001 9/11, Madrid 2004, and London 7/7 2005 and the attack on the USS Cole 2000 seem to be the work of Israel, usually assisted by friendly local security people allied to Israel........MI-5 etc..... to create a certain narrative which supports ISRAEL'S overall geo-strategic plans ("A Clean Break" 1996,"PNAC" 2000) "Israel's enemies are the West's enemies,so we are in this fight together" basic paraphrased response to a Israeli agent captured in the vicinity of the Twin Towers in 9/11, 2001..........There is no clear indication that the 5,000 of "al-Qaeda" were ever interested in terrorist ops which targeted civilians, especially Western civilians, but rather they were more concerned with fighting irregular warfare against armed opposition groups in the conventional battle field, in Muslim countries.
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4. The 5,000 membership of "al-Qaeda" were trained/armed/supplied by America/Israel and Pakistan ............................and seemed to have been guided from the beginning to the end as useful appendages to the "Clash of Civilization" meme, and consequently as the justification for invading Afghanistan, and to an extent indirectly Iraq...........Somalia........threaten Pakistan....and so forth.
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9/11 2001 was a joint Israel/Israeli-American agents operation to justify the current open ended wars, and blamed on "al-Qaeda". The FBI do not think Osama was responsible for 9/11.......and Osama in his last real interview to a Pakistani paper in October 2001 stated that he did not carry out 9/11.
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SO, Osama was never the leader of these 5,000 men....used extensively by the USA in various theaters, and trained by America/Israel/Pakistan. Osama Bin Laden never sat down with all of them in Afghanistan, and said "lets attack America, so that the American's can occupy several Muslim countries for Israel".......Osama until he died in December 2001 in Pakistan was an American agent, performing their guided theater, surrounded as always by a dozen followers and no more)
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Osama Bin Laden, code named "Tim Osman" by his Western intelligence handlers was a Western trained security operative, a go-between/coordinator for Western intelligence with the numerous "jehadi" operatives. The man sought publicity, Western and domestic, wearing his exotic clothes and even more exotic speeches.....giving interviews to newspapers, magazines,television channels and so on...thats how you build a terrorist hologram for your Western Intelligence handlers.
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These direct media interviews and footage of his movement with his rent a followers suddenly stopped in late 2001............thus the widely held belief that he actually died in December 2001. Since late 2003 all we have had is fake video presentations by him in a studio, and taped speeches.
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So deductive summary....
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Osama Bin Laden/Tim Osman, the Western intelligence operative died in December 2001, or killed in that year so that he would not give too many further live interviews stating that he did not carry out 9/11......why would a diehard Jehadi lie about such a deed anyway? If he really did it, he would obviously take credit, surely?
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The video, and tape recordings of Osama since late 2003 are fake. So somebody is going to great lengths to present fake information, and subsequently verifying them as authentic. If this is indeed the case it is not a great stretch to imagine that "al-Qaeda" was never a real global terrorist organization, and that "al-Qaeda" did not carry out 9/11 . Osama denied he carried out 9/11 in October 2001 to a Pakistani newspaper; Benazir Bhutto in her November 2nd 2007 interview with David Frost states Omer Shaikh,the British intelligence operative killed Osama in late 2001.....and finally the FBI do not think he carried out or ordered 9/11.
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The American government since 2001 has never produced substantial proof that "al-Qaeda"carried out 9/11.
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If Osama did not carry out 9/11, and "al-Qaeda" did not carry out 9/11, then who did? All the information leads towards hardline Likudnik Israelis in the state security structure of Israel working in tandem with like minded people in the USA........and to understand who.... All you have to do is read the "Clean Break" document 1996, and "Project For A New American Century" 2000....to get a finger at the REAL perpetrators.
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For the sake of keeping fewer than a dozen evildoers out of Afghanistan, Gen. Stanley McChrystal and his legion of supporters in the Pentagon, Congress, and the media insist we need to bring increase U.S. troop levels to over 100,000, and the overall coalition force level to a half-million, the number of troops we had on the ground at one point in Vietnam.
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(unless we are looking at a buildup invasion force against Pakistan in the future........and more war.
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Whilst the occupation forces aren't clearly fighting"al-Qaeda" they are fighting the Taliban.........that part Jeff is not a myth.
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So lets look at the Taliban.
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The Taliban is the love child of the USA, whilst Pakistan is the midwife and mentor which gave it birth in 1994, and the Gulf states as always the funders of this latest piece of American/Israeli mischief, allegedly, laughably in hindsight to bring peace and stability to war torn Afghanistan .
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Numbering about 10,000 drawn exclusively from the ranks of the ethnic Pashtuns, lightly armed with AK-47 and not much else: poor military training; poor logistics; poor C&C; no heavy equipment; poor leadership; no real overall general strategy; no aircover.............and inevitably consequently to date losing every engagement against the Coalition forces, so a turkey shoot.
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But touted as a real threat to the puppet Kabul government, and to the American homeland by implication...."we are fighting them over there so that we don't have to fight them over here in our country".......The Taliban sticks to fighting in Afghanistan, and the Pashtun parts of Pakistan........10,000 verses 500,000 soon to be Afghan and coalition security forces, AND 1,100,000 Pakistani security forces,controlled by the USA
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Under International law if any of the 192 GA countries are occupied by foreign armed forces, then the people under foreign occupation have the right to seek "self-determination", and can organize themselves as a resistance movement against the foreign occupation force........the law is clear in this area. So for example if America is occupied by a foreign military power, Americans can organize themselves into a resistance movement, AND seek material assistence from Canada or Mexico......under international law Mexico and Canada would be duty bound to provide food, shelter and arms with training for the "American Liberation Movement".
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This law evolved over a period of 60 years, after world war II, when many people around the world, under colonial rule were struggling for "self-determination"........and the international community, including First World countries, with Socialist bloc countries came to accept the fundamental principle of "self-determination".........People had the right to govern themselves, and not be occupied and exploited by foreign alien entities. For the rule of "self-determination" to apply to any nation, only a significant portion of the population must be united in the resistance movement, presumably over 50%............does the Taliban have the support of over 50% of the Afghan population? or a significant portion, because if they do then it is a legitimate resistance movement seeking "self determination" for the Afghan people.
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Then in such a scenario, under clear international law accepted by rich and poor countries alike over 60 years, the Taliban have the right to seek shelter, logistics and arms from the governments of Pakistan, Iran, Uzbekistan, and China..........these governments and nations which are neighbors of Afghanistan have a duty under international law to provide all manner of support to the Taliban.
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However there are problems with this .........and the question of the Taliban.
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Problem number 1 was/is the Americans and especially Bush II regime which emphasized American exceptionalism.............America by implication is above the law; as the sole hyper power it does not have to follow international rules.......second by implication again, because of the crimes committed by "al-Qaeda" allegedly was so great in 9/11 (remember the FBI do not think Osama Bin Laden committed 9/11, and the USA government have not offered detailed evidence linking "al-Qaeda" to 9/11)......America in revenge can do as it pleases, including absolving it of any international obligations.........under this new Bush doctrine America can threaten Afghan neighbors who support legitimate Afghan resistance movements.
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The second problem is with the Taliban itself. It is a hardline Sunni Islamic fundamentalist group which even the mullahs of Iran labeled "fossilized dinosaurs"......there are 192 nations on earth, and it is quite right that morally, socially, culturally, economically every nation on earth should attempt to modernize themselves, and look forward in history....which means striving for democratic governments that are transparent and accountable to the people, elected legislatures, the rule of law which is not arbitrary, a vibrant civil society, an incorruptible neutral judiciary, economic elevation for all.........all the good wholesome things which every people of all shades agree on should be available to ALL, enshrined in the UDHR, and ICCPR and ICSECR........BUT somehow I don't think the Taliban would sign on to such universal notions and attempt to deliver on such things....in fact quite the reverse.
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Another problem is with the Taliban again..........Is the Taliban created by the USA, through the Pakistan military a true home grown resistance movement that seeks in the jargon of international law, "self-determination" for the majority of its people? For example like the ANC, based in Mozambique initially, or the Vietcong based in North Vietnam....................OR as hinted is it more likely that it is yet another "Controlled opposition" group used as the fifth column by America to justify American occupation of Afghanistan?.....My personal opinion is that the Taliban are not a true resistance movement that has the best interests of the majority of Afghans, fighting for "self-determination"....though obviously the rank and file of the Taliban may feel that they are fighting for their country.
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The final problem with the Taliban is that it has powerful enemies around Afghanistan, which will make it near impossible for them to regain power..........if and when the Americans finally have satisfied their lust for narco-profits, and leave Afghanistan. Shia Iran does not like Sunni hard line Taliban, and came to near blows with them in 1998 when Iran massed 250,000 troops on the Afghan border, after some Iranian diplomats were butchered in Mazar-i-sharif. Iran backs the Northern Alliance against the Taliban; has fully cooperated with the USA since Afghanistan was invaded in 2001 and is investing heavy into various projects to bolster the current puppet government in Kabul; Ditto Russia for historical reasons.....sees the Taliban as the extension of the mujaheddin which fought against their soldiers and killed/MIA 20,000 of them, and wounded 50,000...resulting in a humiliating retreat for the superpower; ditto India who does not wish to see Pakistan achieve "strategic depth" viz India in Afghanistan, which makes the Pakistanis confident into renewing attacks against India, especially in Kashmir.
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India views the Taliban as the proxy of the Pakistan military which is absolutely correct, but is also a half analysis. To be more precise a better perspective from which to make ALL intelligence assessments of Pakistan,over a longer time span would be to view the Pakistani military as an annex of British intelligence, and the American military, especially since 1954 when the $1 billion Security Pact was signed with the USA by Mohammed Ali Bogra/General Ayub Khan with the Eisenhower administration. Since then the Pakistani military have been acting as the regional proxy of the USA in security ops against Iran, Afghanistan, China, INDIA and against the Pakistani people themselves. Senior military officers are sent to the USA for training. At present the Pakistan military run Pakistan from the back seat deciding on ALL security issues, and a substantial portion of foreign policy.....whilst Zardari, the American installed puppet busy's himself with looting the state coffers, and gives the veneer of democratic legitimacy to the Pakistani state.
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Thus the number one enemy of the Pakistani people, and for South Asian stability, harmony and development is the Chamar Chamacha Chauds in the Pakistan military (aka: Raj Pooooonjab Police Force). It must be dismantled and destroyed....and a new military instituted in its place that reflects the true beliefs, values and interests of the Pakistani people.
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My personal view is that the Americans should leave Afghanistan asap, BUT the Taliban should NOT take power after they leave.......sufficient support must be given to alternative groups in Afghanistan..........but such good will intentions and outcome will not come from the Americans, busy with their narco enterprise.............and certain sado-machoistic penchant for attacking Afghan wedding parties and celebrations....Afghanistan has banned gay marriages)

The half-million figure comes from the counterinsurgency field manual (FM 3-24, Counterinsurgency [.pdf]), which calls for 20 to 25 counterinsurgent forces per every 1,000 locals, and Afghanistan contain a tad over 28 million locals. Your cat can do the math from there. What your cat can’t tell you is the thought process behind the conclusion that it makes sense to pit a half-million persons under arms against a force of eight or ten persons who aren’t in the vicinity of where you plan to place your half-million armed people.
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(If you love war and think YOU are the center of the world, attacking wedding parties, attacking civilians, strutting around in uniform, feeling self important, giving media presentations to the world, heroin, opium........bloated Pentagon security budgets which are untraceable in the trillions........then of course any obvious cock and bull will be offered)

That’s because your cat’s thought process isn’t as short-circuited as the cognitive quagmire going on in the minds of McChrystal and the people backing him.

The short version of this loopy logic equation goes like this: you put McChrystal in charge and he’s asking for what an official doctrine manual says he should ask for, so you have to give it to him. This skips over a trail of false assumptions that, lined up end to end, would span the Khyber Pass.

The requirement for a half-million to ten superiority ratio should have been laughed out of the discussion the moment it was mentioned. The counterinsurgency manual’s dictum that we must "convince the people of the government’s legitimacy" contains two dismal flaws in the context of Afghanistan (and Iraq as well). There is no convincing the Afghan people of the legitimacy of the Hamad Karzai government or any other government we replace it with.
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(He has been in power approaching 8 years with nothing to recommend him, his brother is the biggest narco dealer in the country after the American/British military, and his deputy is a notorious criminal war lord........which ALL Afghans know about, guarded as always by American security overtly..........and we talk about "convincing" the Afghans of the legitimacy of their leader? Ordinary Afghans live in Afghanistan, they know the real score. A Pentagon manual isn't going to teach them otherwise)

The biggest flaw in the pro-McChrystal plan argument is that the counterinsurgency manual reflects tried-and-true tactics and strategy. There has never been such a thing as a triumphant counterinsurgency conflict. These types of wars have all been indecisive and draining quagmires; the sorts of conflicts that Sun Tzu warned us about over two thousand years ago when he said "No nation ever profited from a long war."

Yet it is that the military-industrial-congressional complex has adopted the "long war" concept, a gem of tank thinkery straight out of Orwell designed to keep America on a permanent wartime economy and in an endless state of fear and loathing of enemies vaguely defined and overly demonized.

Lacking a peer military adversary since the end of the Cold War, the American war mafia, headed by Bill Kristol’s Israeli-centric neoconservative cabal, casts about desperately for a "new Pearl Harbor" to justify its existence. The 9/11 attacks gave them the "catalyst" they needed to justify the invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan. It remains to be seen if we’ll be able to pull out of the flat spin they have flown us into.
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(We can add AIPAC, Israel, the American Jewish media..........I suppose this goes as far as possible in such a site implicating Israel for 9/11............"A Clean Break" document 1996, PNAC 2000)

The greatest fallacy in the counterinsurgency doctrine is the notion that we can partner with the host nation to establish order and security. As U.S. Army Col. Timothy Reese recently observed, our years of effort at establishing a competent and reliable government and security apparatus in Iraq have come to naught. The "ineffectiveness and corruption" of Iraq’s government, he wrote in a recent memorandum, "is the stuff of legend." Of Iraq’s security forces, he wrote, "corruption among officers is widespread."
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(No honest Iraqi would work with the American/Israeli occupation forces after what has transpired in Iraq under their control......1.2 million dead civilians and 4.5 million refugees....so you hire thief's, murders, liars and pimps...........the only problem with hiring thief's, liars, murderers and pimps to do your work it is that they are not very good at running countries for some strange reason, and $ billions disappear, and you ask why? Iraq, Afghanistan, PAKISTAN)

Laziness is "endemic," Reese said, and "Lack of initiative is legion." These and other compelling reasons are why Reese recommended that it’s time to "declare victory" in Iraq and go home.
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(Reese sounds like a racist fucker.............between 1757--1947, the British starved to death around 30 million "surplus" Indians who were deemed "lazy", including many Aryans amongst them..........the problem is not the"lazy" natives, but the occupation by alien entities who don't have the best of intentions for the hosts they occupy, and the use of local thief's, liars, murderers and pimps of these colonial countries under foreign occupation.
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Iraq is the "Cradle of Civilization"..........the base of human civilization from where humanity gets its basics of existence..........and then remarkably again under Muslim rule it became the center of Arab civilization. Before the invasion of 2003, Iraq had the highest literacy rate in the Middle East, and universal free health care......with 70% of the population living in cities, despite having psycho Saddam as its leader............"laziness" doesn't come into the equation; the ONLY problem is the American occupation of a Muslim country, and the presence of many Israeli security advisers in the country)

To think we can do better than this in Afghanistan is the epitome of delusion. Saddam Hussein’s Iraq, which we backed in a
long war against Iran during the 1980s, was a real country with a real army and real institutions and infrastructure. Afghanistan has always been a fourth-world wasteland. When it comes to Afghanistan, our counterinsurgency manual amounts to little more than a ream of latrine linen.

The only reason we’re still playing political patty-cake about what to do in Afghanistan – or anywhere else in that part of the world – is to determine who gets the blame for "losing." A popular adage of war says it’s the losers who determine when they’re over. So, the logic goes, as long as we don’t quit, we can’t lose. Hence the "long war."

It’s all about seeing who gets the blame for failing to do the impossible.
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(Well Jeff, there's only so much wisdom we can expect from military men......unless there is an actual world war,the brightest and best in society don't head to the military in First World societies..............living in military barracks surrounded by a lot of gay men, studying war and fighting........in fact quite the opposite. What McCrystal says is predictable; that is what a military man in charge of operations in Afghanistan would say. What"we" don't want is the American military establishment defining and dictating American state policy,through the media and through their Think Tanks.............that undermines true American democracy if it exists. It is the job of the civilian elected political leaders in Capitol Hill who should give clear leadership and clear definition on all foreign policy, aggressively reviewing and analyzing all areas........taking into account general public sentiments.........rather then grunting on in a gay way with open ended wars.........and playing the falsely wound up patsy of Israeli geo-strategic folly.)

Sep 26, 2009

Israel's butt buddies

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Ahmedinejad's speeches at the UN are always GUARANTEED good Jewish vaudiville acts, presumably that is why the leader of a Third World country that is not overly significant is allowed to perform in the global platform of the UN, smack BANG BANG in the middle of Jew York, over the speechifying requirements of other leaders around the world that have something slightly more constructive to say; there are after all 57 other Muslim majority countries with leaders who shall we say are a little bit more balanced than Ahmedinejad and Gadaffi. Two regimes installed by the USA/UK in the first place. ............thats why faggot, cross dressing eccentric Gaddafi, leader of an unremarkable desert state of 4 million has remained in power for 40 years without being particuarly effective as a leader or as regime, with so much controversial history..................the same with the mullah's of Iran in power for 30 years, with so much controversey behind them, and a deeply unpopular ineffective regime that renmains in power through coercive force, threats, torture and out right murder.

The Clash of Civilisation meme coutesy of British arch agent academic Jew Bernard Lewis, stoked from the 1970's is waning, and so what better way to remind the world of the "problem" then invite these installed clowns to Jew York to perform their usual acts of sheer theatrics.

Beyond the tireless predictable threatics, these staged stunts smack bang in the middle of Jew York are informative in another way..............they indicate to us the level of "control' Israel and the Jew exercise over particular countries around the world. We know the type of speech Ahmedinejad is going to deliver, so why be suprised? Its not as if this is the first time he has made such speeches. So the walking out by certain diplomats of certain countries is an indication to us which are the true "butt buddies" of Israel, since Israel has ordered these First World countries which Third World country is now a mortal threat to Israel.

However the type of "butt buddies" of Israel varies, there are several categories. Generally speaking most of Israel's in bed closet "butt budies" are in Occidental countries where significant Jew populations reside, and the Jew through the Rothschild banking network initially were able to build a power base in certain Western countries, over the last 200 years, just after the Napoleonic wars.

Category 1 "butt buddy"

The USA state: 8--9 million Jews in the USA, The Israel lobby, the prominant position of Jews in USA politics...Teddy Roosevelt, possibly the first Crypto-Jew president and the beginning of the American quest for empire; FD Roosevelt; Truman; Eisenhower; Lyndon Johnson; Clinton regime being the most Jewish...1993---2001.....since then an emphasis on having Jews of Israeli origin with Israeli citzenship credentials, serving and servicing Israel extensively through sensitive positions of the American state such as in the Defence/Pentagon, and State Department. Backed by Christian Zionists made of 30 million religious batshit wacko's( a really queer paradox in a modern state), who are conditioned into believing that by supporting Israel they are fulfilling a religious mission for Jesus's second coming and the present existence, and on-going wars in the Israeli hinterland and final "sacrifice" of Israel is a key to that; the FBI implicated in ALL false flag ops in the USA........The USA media.......the key brainwashing mechanism over the rest of the helpless 98% American gentile population.

The French State: Especially so since Mossad agent Sarkozy was elected President. Unoffically 1 million Jews live in France.


Category 2 "Butt buddy"

UK state, German state, Denmark state, Holland state, Spain, Switzerland state, Ukraine state, Hungary state, Turkey state, Pakistan state, Iraq state, Afghan state, Iran state, Uzbekistan state, Italy state, Austria state, Poland state, Georgia.



Category 3 "butt buddy"

Russian state( historically Russia with the Ukraine had the largest Jewish population mainly through conversion during AD 800---1000.................), Indian state (via RAW/BJP/aspects of Indian media), Sri Lankan state, Indonesian state, Cambodian state.

Whats the problem with being Israel's "butt buddy"? Well as the allegory suggests if you are not Israel then in such a relationship you are in danger of being seriously "shafted". With the Jew there is no such thing as equality, reciprocity and live and let live........true friendship.

Nations cultivate normal "relationships" with other nations which last for many years.........Germany with Austria; the UK with Portugal; Norway with Sweden; The USA with Canada........because there are good wholesome reasons for such relationships between the countries.

Jew control of the media in a given gentile country, of political interfence through local and foreign agents in a given gentile country, of "cooperation" with the security of a gentile country does not a make true friendship which has mutual beneficial consequences for ALL; never does................it is the gentile country that ultimately always gets shafted by the Jew....that is how it has to be.

Russia is the classic example of that.........starting from 1918, and the Bolshevik revolution. Those countries that do not have large Jew populations presently, however should not be overly unguarded......The Jew now is a global phenomenon, with their particular agenda's. If Israel cultivates relationships with a state which is very unlike itself then it is because they have ther own agenda's to fulfill, which invariably ultimately will clash with the interests of the host nation.

Sep 24, 2009

Desert Fairy Tales.

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What is in the bible, and believed at different degrees by Muslims and Jews as people of the book, are purely desert fairy tales ..........but it is amazing the extent to which the greater part of the worlds population believe in such nonsense. This is the testament to the power of a good story sold to the masses, and the level of indoctrination with propaganda which mesmerizes so many people.........the modern fairy tale stories that Saddam's Iraq was a mere 45 minute's away threat to America, or that the ancient, reclusive, isolated, 4th world, and medievel state of Afghanistan was ever a threat to the USA or the world, which America with NATO had to be occupied for 8 years or more as a failed narco state in order to protect the world.

All desert fairy tales.
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From Mike Rivero at What Really Happened.


Egypt is literally littered with the ruins of the ancient temples and palaces of her rulers. As much as has been found, it is estimated that only 1/3 of Egypt's archeological wonders have been uncovered to date. A newly discovered temple was uncovered while digging a sewer line, and a cache of finely preserved mummies was literally stumbled over by a cow in a pasture.

Iraq's ancient heritage was enshrined in its ancient sites and museum. As a result of the war, many of those sites have been damaged or destroyed. Part of the ancient city or Ur now lies underneath a US air base runway. The treasures of the museum have only partly been recovered. The treasures from the looted archaeological sites have been scattered to the world.

Likewise, Iran has a rich archaeological heritage marking its place in history.

All of this wealth of archaeological treasures must of course annoy Israel. We are raised from birth with Old Testament tales of the greatness of the ancient Israelites, of the powerful kingdoms of Solomon and David and the first temple. Yet Israel, while rich in antiquities, is almost totally devoid of artifacts from this supposedly glorious time in her history. The existence of the fabled First Temple was supported with just two artifacts, a carved staff ornament in the shape of a pomegranate and the Jehoash tablet. Both of these artifacts have been exposed as frauds. We are told that once there was a magnificent temple on that hill, but it "all went away." The wonders emerging from the soil of Egypt, Iraq, and Iran serve as a constant reminder that ancient buildings of such a scale as we are told the First Temple was simply do not vanish without a trace.

There is considerable reason to suspect that the tales told in the Old Testament are just that; tales. The Bible is not science, it is the collected stories of a primitive tribal people reminding each other how important they are. And like fishermen talking about the one that got away, or Ramses with his temple carvings of the did-not-really-happen victory over the Hittites at Kadesh, the writers of the ancient testaments assumed that the people they were telling stories to had no way to verify the claims for themselves. So "embellishment" was a low-risk activity.

We do know from the available archaeological evidence that the Exodus probably actually happened to the Hyksos, not the Israelites. We know that the story of Moses is suspect because no Egyptian princess would hide a Hebrew child inside Pharaoh's household, then give the kid a Hebrew name ("Moses" is actually an Egyptian title meaning "Prince" and is included in the names of many Pharaoh's names such as Tut-Moses, Ah-Moses, Ra-Moses (Ramses) etc.)

Likewise, the story of Masada may be less than accurate. The remains found on the mountain were buried with pig bones, something no proper Jewish funeral would tolerate, which suggests that the bodies found and venerated as heroes of ancient Judea were actually those of dead Roman Soldiers.

But a good story is a good story and the writers of the ancient texts were probably not thinking much further into the future than the guys who pen the "Celebrity dates space alien" stories you see at supermarket checkout lines. The fact that the celebrity is a real person does not prove the space alien exists. It's just a story.

Given enough time, even a simple story written in jest can take on a life of its own. Scientology began as a bet between two science fiction writers; look how wide spread that has become in just a short time.

But, over time, entire religions with attendant wealth and power structures have been built on the premise that these old testament stories really happened exactly as written. And today, here in the 21st century world, science has started to catch up with these ancient legends and call many of them into doubt.

So, for a nation that justifies its existence on the writings of the Torah, the plethora of sites and artifacts confirming the ancient histories of Egypt, Iraq, Iran, etc. etc. etc. must seem a dire political threat for a nation whose own ancient history seems to have left little if any traces at all.

........Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!........Your in danger of encouraging Israel in the wrong direction.

But presumably the Romans did interact with a type of Jewish peoples whose identity had evolved into a form of Judaism which might not be recognized by modern Jewish standards and practices, 2000 years ago (see "The Last Temptation of Christ" to get a glimpse)........and presumably they were freed from slavery and captivity in ancient Babylon when the Persians invaded the area in 538 BC, unless these are also desert fairy tales too........as to Esther saving the lives of countless Jews, celebrated around the Jewish holiday of Purim.......again no historical basis, or evidence around that.

So in sum total the Jewish race that came out of what is now Israel is real enough, and according to professor Shlomo Sands many dispersed around the world after the Romans sacked Jerusalem, but as many were also converts from other races in Western, and Arab countries.........a good deal of the modern Palestinians are of Jewish origin, but for the fact that they converted to Islam from Judaism.....not a big jump in religious faith and practices (see the modern Samaritans at prayer......which represents the old form of Judaism).

The colorful amazing stuff such as 40 years in the desert of Sinai, a non-existent Moses parting waves, Salomon...David...Sampson........blah, blah blah that's the fairy tale propaganda.......and why blame them? Don't all races and nations mythologize to a greater or lessor degree about themselves?

As long as it does not lead to any harm hey; around misconstrued ideas, EGOs and false ambitions?

Sep 12, 2009

The question of Jinnah and the BJP.

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Yes I have been following the saga, not in great depth, but it is worth commenting on as I am doing now.

What is the significance of the saga for India, for Pakistan.....for South Asia generally?

Not significant? Just a couple of old farts, in the twilight of their political life lamenting and reflecting on a long past insignificant story, candidly in the way old farts do as they trace their life history...............babbling on without proper political timing, coherent context and singular political purpose???? (Advani and Singh )

Or something more sinister and Machiavellian?...............By painting Jinnah as a secular man, who was very moderate and reasonable.....someone who was accommodating and flexible (all good things), they are trying to insinuate that the sad traumatic unnecessary partition of India for ALL was the result of Congress and its leadership failures, and specifically Nehru. If that were so, then that would be really sad, and low in politics, never mind that politics does attract a lot of the low, sad, criminal sort, especially in India, or maybe I should say especially South Asia.

I instinctively NEVER thought when Advani published his book in 2005 and came out with the "Jinnah was secular" meme Advani was taking a dig at Congress.......it was an auto biography by a man who had a lot of rich memories and by writing the autobiography presumably Advani was attempting to come to terms with his life, the highs and the lows, and sharing those experiences with a wide an audience as possible, surely? Isn't that why the great and the good write auto biographies....to set the record straight as it were, rather than as vindictive retributive tools?

Obviously when you are a high profile political/public figure, people invariably can gauge secondary, or multilayered meanings which simply may not exist in the original text......but this is the hazard of being a prominent political person........your every words are scrutinized, and examined...and this is how it is every where. But I do not believe the intentions of Advani and Jaswant Singh were in this direction for one moment; just old men perhaps reaching a position of greater wisdom, genuinely lamenting the partition of India............which I too regret genuinely. I do genuinely regret the partition of India....it was unnecessary, wasteful and destructive...and if Pakistan is occupied by the Americans proper, the situation for South Asia will get worse, in the manner of Bengal in 1757, and a certain Mir Jafar. History can repeat itself, sometimes.

Let me briefly enlighten you on how my perspectives about Pakistan, India and partition changed........gradually over time, slowly. In doing so perhaps you might begin to understand why L K Advani and Jaswant Singh from the BJP of all parties made their statements as they did through their books respectively, more recently.

I have mixed both with Pakistanis and Indians socially and they have been mostly good experiences. When you interact with others socially you begin to see them as just another human being, and you begin to focus on the similarities......what inerests you both.....basic function of socialisation. Then when I began writing about Pakistan securty post 9/11, I came to the conclusion that Pakistan was the aggressor nation viz India........this would be around late 2003, not 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago. Then I considered the Pakistan state....a failed state, which seems to be incapable of providing the basics for its people...........but on the contrary quite often in a rather casual manner kills millions of its own people. A state that has been involved in American sponsored schemes/mischief around the region which have a tendency to boomerang onto the country.......but they never seem to learn this hard fact.

So what is the justification of such a state? To be sure India is not a shining beacon of light which I am yearning to rush to work and live in BUT, what if partition did not happen? What would have been the benefits of such an outcome for South Asia generally?

For all my meager wisdom, unlike Advani and Jaswant Singh, I think the outcome for South Asia of a united India would have been far far better, than it is now.....at the moment the spat between India and Pakistan running over 62 years is a total farce......a dangerous time consuming wasteful argument which has involved three wars, and as many near wars, without any solutions.

It is in that broader sense, with all the cost and damage to the region, with Pakistan being used as a security ops proxy by outside alien powers.....with ALL the consequences........... that I regret the partition of India. I regret what Jinnah did.......looking at the situation in hind sight. I regret that he partitioned India, knowing that he was only going to get a moth eaten rumb statelet which was going to fail. I regret that he pushed for Pakistan when he knew he wouldn't live long to see it and realize it himself. I regret the destruction of cultures and communities which had co existed for 1000 upon thousands of years.......this was the work of Jinnah and nobody else.

I have even gone further and suggested that he was a Raj spy, maneuvered into place to effect their agenda, and I stand by that accusation.

It is in that sense that I think praising Jinnah especially now is wrong. In the context of BJP politics and their responsibilities to their party and to their country I am quite sure that there are far more current and urgent issues which the BJP as a party in opposition needs to focus on rather than get side tracted into non-issue matters of history, thick with emotion for many, but of very little relevance to the present. These sort of things are best discussed within the confines of the proper intellectual circles within the party, rather than bring them out in the open.

BUT if by praising Jinnah one is attempting some kind of rapprochement with the "other side" than I accept it as a good intentioned gesture. But not as a political tactic to take a dig at the Congress Party; there are other more OBVIOUS ways one can criticize the current Congress Party, without being so cryptic.

Nehru was not a great leader, he had faults....and he made many mistakes. As to Gandhi imagine India now if his ideology were taken in its literal form and translated into India's foreign policy, defense policy and economic policy.............utter, utter disaster would have ensued in India, and the Congress Party knew that, that is why they never instituted a significant portions of his ideas into state policy.........be that as it may, they cannot however be blamed for the Partition of India..........that sad occurrence was the work of Jinnah, and if one believes ones instincts, the Raj manipulated Jinnah through their numerous agents in India...........that is why they were in such a "hurry' to leave India, without actually leaving........independence would have been too late for them in 1948, after being in the vicinity of the subcontinent for 200 odd years. Samje?

So on to Mr. Jaswant Singh. To challenge ones cherishly held ideas every now and than and reflect upon them requires quite of bit of courage and a great deal of reflective thinking.....so his comments and his book I thoroughly commend and recommend. I hope he visits Pakistan and makes it his second home. When he visits the country he should reach out to a wide an audience as possible.........and in between book signings he should:

1. Lecture why for all the reasons the partition was morally, economically, politically, socially, culturally, psychologically and militarily wrong....he shouldn't babble on but have specific sound bites that are genuine in content. Clear precise answers.

2. What in his opinion were the true role of the Congress, the Raj and Jinnah with the Muslim League in the partition of India. This should definitely not be a Congress bashing session.

3. How India and Pakistan, specifically NOW can come closer together in all respects. What practical ideas does he have for this important task.


Sep 8, 2009

Bhai saab, Pakistan isn't another Iraq under "American declared LIBERATION and DEMOCRACY" is it yet?

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Al-Maliki of Iraq can definitively state that the Zio-Christian fundamentalist mercenary out fit of Blackwater is not in Iraq, and that it definitely does not recruit Israelis in its ranks. Al-Maliki can further conform that they won't be roaming Iraq killing top scientists in the country who were connected to the former Saddam regimes WMD programs.

America is in Iraq ONLY to spread peace, love, democracy, transparency, reconstruction, economic development and effective governance, after decades of Socialist Ba' athist dictatorship under Saddam.

Al-Malaki swears all this supreme truth publicly, and openly without a second of hesitation to his beloved countrymen on the Koran and upon the honor of his family name, and they must believe him surely.(the actual speech was prepared at the American embassy)




Al-Maliki further states that no Iraqi bases are being used to launch missiles controlled by the USA which kill mainly Iraqi civilians, and not much else. (the missiles are part of a psych war specifically directed against Iraqis to demonstrate American technical and racial superiority, never mind that 95% of the casualties list published by the Iraqi government show to be innocent civilians)

Al-Maliki and his colleagues affirm the sovereignty of Iraq and the independence of the people to choose their own destiny. Al-Maliki fully supports and believes in the proud heritage of his country from the dawn of time, to the present as the "Cradle of civilization"....and that no foreign power great and small have the right to interfere with its internal affairs........especially a country like the USA, a rogue dangerous power run by mad Jews with agenda's.....and very little mercy. Al-Maliki does not have a second home in America, and has no foreign bank accounts.



Al-Maliki can definitely confirm that the biggest USA embassy in the world will soon not be in Bagdad, containing 1800 personnel........including military personnel.........and nobody should show any concern or alarm about this strange development least of all the Iraqi people.

It is absolutely normal for America to have big big embassies in small failed states.......please believe me, stay calm and watch some telly to pass the time.

Al-Maliki can further confirm that there aren't over half a dozen bases in the country which contain American Military personnel, including bases near highly sensitive sights close to Sargoda.

America equals love and peace..........as in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Mean while a few years later.............2012.



The Chimp in chief at his palace in Islamabad says that he hasn't amassed $10 billion........he is a poor man of the people, who ONLY thinks of his people in Pakistan. But he requires American security to protect him because he says "al-Qaeda" working through various name changing umberrla organisations is very active in that area.......that is the only reason he has allowed the 3,000 strong American embassy next to his presidential palace.


The Chimp further adds that there simply is no evidence that 5 million Pakistanis have been killed through sectarian violence........attributed to the Liberating American Forces and their institution of "Operation Peace and stabilization" program from 2010.






The Chimp in chief denies that 20 million Pakistanis have "escaped" to India as refugees. There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that the women in these refugee camps are selling their pudi for 1 rupee a go..........The president says he knows because his own intelligence told him the going rate is 4 rupee a go, and he makes 20% on all such transactions.



But, but, but Pakistan is a nuclear power....which spent $20 billion on the project, defeating and overcoming a concerted Zionist effort to prevent the country from acquiring the bomb over several decades, with the sacrifice of lives and deep effort by the great many from the country.....50 warheads........800,000 in the military....and 300,000 paramilitary........2,500 tanks...2,000 artillery...450 jets.....how can America overpower such a state? If North Korea is independent, why can't Pakistan be so?

The fundamental problem of the state is the Pakistan military (always has been from day one of independence in August 1947), especially the top brass lacking in strategic and moral courage, and their all too close alliance with the USA. In addition their destabilization of Pakistani politics over many decades in order to stay in power.

They never came to the simple truth that Jew run America could never be friends or a real realiable ally of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan........that any such relationship would be fake and to the disadvantage of Pakistan generally.....always as subsequent experience has shown.

Its not as if the Pakistani chamcha chaud military have had great experience with the Americans either........America destabilized Field Marshal Ayub Khan from 1965---1969...perhaps that is why he titled his autobiography "Friends not Masters" (1967)...reflectively. The American's killed General Zia and the entire top brass...and destabilized General Musharaf out of power more recently, and installed the Chimp in chief Zardari.

But these sad kuta chauds in uniform do not learn....they repeat the mistake for themselves and so their country, again, again, again and again. They look stupid, act stupid, no Izzat, sharam or tamiz against their own brothers and sisters.

The Pakistani military is the true and main enemy of the Pakistani people. We do not blame Jew America using Pakistan for its own ends cynically.

The Pakistan military itself does not have a glorious record; it fights its bloodiest wars against its own people in East Pakistan, Baluchistan and now the NWFP....where in there are other more civilized options in dealings with ones own kith and kin and fellow countrymen....but I bet a trillion $ any day that when the Americans finally decide to fully invade and occupy the country the Kuta Chaud Pakistan military will not resist and fight so vigorously as they have done against their own people in the past and present......kuta chaud....kuta chaud....kuta chaud.........the Turkish military have a good fighting record; the Vietnamese military have a good fighting record...........and to an exten the Indian military have a good fighting record, against Pakistan mainly.....examples of Third World states which have produced fine institutions which the people can be proud of.

The Pakistan military on the other hand operates as a service center for USA geo-strategy in the Greater Middle East and South Asia.........training up groups against Iran, Afghanistan, China, India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka....and so on, and the ordinary Pakistani society will feel what gratitude they get from America eventually.

And so in the future when the American slowly take over Pakistan and a terrible civil war ensues as in Iraq......the above Mir Jafar's will be retired some where in America, playing golf, exchanging old stories with the MOSSAD agent Busharaf, and sadly reflecting on the fact that they can no longer play their games with Pakistan.

So what is the solution?

The Pakistani people cannot rely on their corrupt inept political leadership, and the even worse military to save them from American "Liberation" with all the dire consequences of what might then ensure in the country..........I suggest you read all the "alternative reporting" from Iraq, and as a Pakistani you will get a idea of what might follow.

Pakistanis must organise around alternative leaders who are not tainted like the present sad lot............in doing so they must not scuumb to Islamic fundamentalism, and the politics of the Taliban and al-Qaeda. The Taliban are run by the Pakistan military at the behest of the Americans since 1994...........in machiavellian politics the Taliban are known as "Controlled opposition" .....they provide the justification for the Americans to be in Afghanistan, and soon as it is developing in Pakistan since 2001. The same with al-Qaeda......in this machiavellian Jewish/American game the Pakistan military have played a central pivotal role, more than anybody else around the world, and in Pakistan itself. They have both sustained the al-Qaida myth, and continue to train, arm, finance the Afghan and Pakistan Taliban.....whilst purportedly fighting them to the end................this is quite a machiavellian achievement, no doubt guideded by the American embassy.

Most Pakistani generals....the 130 or so serving and retired are guaranteed millionaires; businessmen, hustlers, wheeler dealers..............NOT military men with honor or dignity.....if the price is right they can sell their own grandmothers, no problem saab! They have sold 700 mainly innocent civilians to the Americans as "al-Qaida" since 2001....INNOCENT because the Americans themselves have subsequently released many of them..........and if you follow the arrest patterns of these "al-Qaeda" people, you will see that the pattern is usually linked to American domestic political needs and requirements.....so the show is a total charade.........the same with the capture of the 5 Taliban leaders in Swat very recently......you guessed on 9/11..."celebration day".

..................So when these Mir Jafar kuta Generals are finally brought to account, and stripped of their rank, and medals...........when they have been tried and executed..........their bodies must be burnt on a funeral pyre............and an invited low caste hindu priest from South India must read the last burial rights for them, and their ashes spread in either Israel or America, NOT PAK--I---STAN.

Pakistanis, through peaceful means must reclaim Islamabad first and foremost from the quiet American occupation/invasion....then they must de-select by whatever means the present corrupt regime, and then elect a more effective regime there after.

Pakistan zindabad!


Aug 31, 2009

The MOSSAD Mohammed cartoon saga, and the promotion of Far Right politics in Europe..

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An article by Professor James Petras that was published a few years back at the height of the Mohamed cartoons controversy. This gives us a better perspective and context to the recent Far Right riots in the UK, the riots in France in 2005.........and then the staged saga of the Mohamed cartoons in 2006, first in Denmark and then later world wide, where Muslim countries unwittingly participated in a MOSSAD propaganda drive around the subject of "The Clash of Civilizations":

Western backed Islamic fundamentalism to fight local nationalism..100 years back

How the Shah of Iran was toppled and Mullahs installed in his place

Who started the Arc of Crisis policy from the 1970's

Bernard Lewis



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forgetting the very hard truth that of the 57 Muslim majority countries nearly all of them are pro-Western (closely allied to the USA/UK), with the exception of Iran, Sudan, Somalia and Libya (though I hear Qaddafi is rumored to be planning holidays in the USA, and his children are educated in Western countries.........Qaddafi's son and heir loves cosmopolitan London, where I think he was educated as were many of his other children) ............and the elites of these 57 Muslim countries are pro-Western, depositing a good deal of their wealth and personal assets in Western countries. They send their children to be educated in Western countries. They take their holidays in Western countries. They do their exclusive shopping in Western countries.

In short, where it matters, in terms of Muslim rulers and the elite, the mass of Muslim nations are pro-Western.........."The Clash of Civilization" meme in reality doesn't exist in the critical arena. A few Muslim terrorist groups trained and covertly directed by Western intelligence and Israel does not a make a clash of civilizations, but are useful fifth column excuses for the West to "pursue" and invade Muslim countries.

So for some people the promotion of the meme, with staged artificial theater does help their own perceived agenda's........and the thoughtful, forthright article by Professor James Petras exposes that deep deception, and the real actors involved in the deception, and their consequent motivations.


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The caricatures in Middle East politics

The center piece of the current explosive confrontation between Islamic and Arab protestors, political leaders and governments and the US and Western European regimes and publishers is rooted in Israeli efforts to polarize the world in its favor and to promote isolation, economic sanctions and/or a military attack on Iran.
An article by James Petras and Robin Eastman-Abaya

There are several key questions, which almost all commentators and analysts have failed to address. These include:

Why did the cartoons get published in Denmark?

What is the political background of Flemming Rose the cultural editor of Jyllands-Posten, who solicited, selected and published the cartoons?

What larger issues coincide with the timing of the cartoons publication and reproduction?

Who benefits from the publication of the cartoons and the ensuing confrontation between the Arabs/Islam and the West?

What is the contemporary political context of the Arab/Islam protests?

How is the Israeli secret service, Mossad, implicated in provoking the Western-Islamic/Arab conflict, and how do the consequences measure up to their expectations?


A starting point for analyzing the cartoon controversy, which has been a focus for attacking Muslims and Muslim countries as intolerant of Western freedom of expression, ........is the long-standing role of Denmark as a major operation point for Mossad activity in Europe. Re-phrased: How could a tiny Scandinavian country of 5.4 million citizens and residents (200,000 or less than 3% of whom are Muslim), renowned for fairy tales, ham and cheese, have become a target for the fury of millions of practicing Muslims from Afghanistan to Palestine, from Indonesia to Libya and into the streets of cities all over the world with significant Muslim populations?

Why, after the bombing of Baghdad, the tortures of Abu Ghariab, the massacres in Fallujah and the utter destitution of the entire Iraqi and Afghan people would Moslems turn their anger at symbols of Denmark from its tinned cookies to its Embassies and overseas business offices?

The story, presented with straight faces, by television news-people, is of, Mr. Flemming Rose, a crusading cultural editor of a widely read Danish daily newspaper who wanted to counter the growing political correctness of Europeans about criticizing Moslems and which he compared to the self-censorship he had witnessed in his native Soviet Union. The oddly named Ukrainian-born editor of the culture page of the Jyllands-Posten commissioned Danish cartoonists to submit a series of cartoons depicting the Prophet Mohammed as they (the Danish cartoonists) might imagine him. However four of the twelve cartoons selected for publication were illustrated by Rose's own staff including the most controversial one ;bomb in the turban. Braving Denmark's anti-blasphemy laws Mr. Rose published the cartoons on September 30, 2005 and the rest is history.

A (perceived) huge world wide attack on the West's sacred right to free expression erupted in the Moslem world with millions of shocked Europeans and North Americans rushing to defend their cherished freedoms in this "clash of civilizations".......(well not millions, Prof, just the media milking the situation.......making the issue bigger than it really was....with shades of the Satanic verses theater 16 years earlier.........The American press was restrained and avoided publishing the cartoons, whilst some of the European press were a little bit more bolder, raising the issue in the context of the increasing rise of Muslim immigration into Western Europe, and whether Muslims could really EVER fit into European society as being after all the marginal very different "other").

Syria and Iran were prominently blamed for the stirring up of furious believers in the streets of Damascus and Teheran, Beirut and in the slums of Gaza (How convenient). According to US Secretary Rice, "Iran and Syria have gone out of their way to inflame sentiments and to use this to their own purposes and the world ought to call them on it." The Pakistani and Libyan authorities allied to the US fired on demonstrators killing and wounding scores while numerous religious leaders were arrested. The Western governments urged their Arab and Moslem allies to prevent more attacks on Danish products and property and blamed those unable to quell the fury with complicity and instigation.

All of this was over a series of cartoons, or so we are told.


The cultural editor, Flemming Rose, who soon tired of being surrounded by a team of Danish police and security to protect him from assassination and missing his daily jogs through his tranquil Copenhagen neighborhood, chose to seek safe haven in Miami, Florida (rather than his native Ukraine among the Cuban exiles, Israeli sayanim and Mah Jong-playing retirees as the drama plays on..........

(anti-Antisemitism is quite high in Ukraine, given its history, and given the fact that it is a THIRD WORLD country where conditions are not so appealing as Miami..............to me the people looked sad and dejected when I was there, .....in an economic mess still 18 years after the fall of Communism; Jews still run the show in Ukraine.....officially 100,000 Jews in the country though the real figure is likely to be higher since the likes of Fleming Rose hide under pseudonyms and local names; many have left like Fleming Rose for the USA or Israel.....Ukrainian women are much sought after in the flesh trade by the Jewish Mafia.........not many immigrants from the Third World in the country, but quite a few Jews in key positions within the state)

Denmark Center of Mossad Activity

Why Denmark? Could this crudely manufactured controversy have been generated on the pages of any major London or New York paper? Who would wish to put Denmark at the center of this clash of civilization appearing as a script from some grade B Islamophobic thriller?

An interesting chapter in former Israeli Mossad agent, Victor J. Ostrovsky's book, By Way of Deception (1990 St. Martin's Press), outlines the close relationship between the workings of the Danish intelligence services and the Israeli Mossad over decades:

"The relationship between the Mossad and Danish intelligence is so intimate as to be indecent. But it is not the Mossad's virtue that is compromised by the arrangement; it's Denmark's. And that's because the Danish are under the mistaken impression that because they saved a lot of Jews in World War II, the Israelis are grateful and they can trust the Mossad."

The Mossad has the capacity to monitor the entire population of Arabs and especially Palestinians (presumably including those with Danish citizenship) through their special relations with the Danes:

" A Mossad man monitors all Arabic and Palestinian-related messages(among Denmarks Arab community) coming into their (the Danish Civil Security Service)headquarters an extraordinary arrangement for a foreign intelligence service."

The Danish Intelligence officers high regard for their Israeli Mossad office mates is apparently not, according to Ostrovsky, reciprocated:

"The Mossad have such contempt for their Danish counterparts that they refer to them as fertsalach, the Hebrew term for a small burst of gas, a fart:..... they tell the Mossad everything they do. Pp. 231-232"

In return for their servility, the Danes get valuable training from the Israelis :

Once every three years, Danish intelligence officials go to Israel for a seminar conducted by the Mossad which generates useful contacts for the Mossad while perpetuating the notion that no organization deals with terrorism better than they (Mossad) do.

In the wake of the US debacle in Iraq and the world's resistance to a massive preemptive military attack or economic and diplomatic embargo of Iran, which could send oil prices to over $100 a barrel, Israel needed to turn the war of ideas on its head. It would make sense that a campaign, aimed to further whip up justifications to attack countries like Iran and Syria (Israel's current enemy du jour), would emanate from one of the US strongest European ally in the invasion and destruction of Iraq and Afghanistan and whose national intelligence apparatus (so fondly known as fertsalach) would be eager to serve Israel's interest.(means, motive and method.....)

Flemming ( or Flaming) Rose: Journalist with a cause

Given Mossad's long-standing penetration of the Danish intelligence agencies, and their close working relations with the right wing media, it is not surprising that
a Ukrainian Jew, operating under the name of Flemming Rose with close working relations with the Israeli state (and in particular the far right Likud regime) should be the center of the controversy over the cartoons. Roses ties to the Israeli state antedate his well-know promotional interview with Daniel Pipes (2004), the notorious Arab-hating Zionist ideologue.

Prior to being placed as a cultural editor of a leading right-wing Danish daily, from 1990 to 1995 Rose was a Moscow-based reporter who translated into Danish a self-serving auto-biography by Boris Yeltsin, godchild of the pro-Israeli, post-communist Russian oligarchs, most of whom held dual citizenship and collaborated with the Mossad in laundering illicit billions. Between 1996-1999 Rose, the journalist, worked the Washington circuit (traveling with Clinton to China) before returning to Moscow 1999-2004 as a reporter for Jyllands-Posten. In 2005 he became its cultural editor, despite few or any knowledge of the field and over the head of other Danish journalists on the staff. In his new position Rose found a powerful platform to incite and play on the growing hostility of conservative Danes to immigrants from the Middle East, particularly practicing Moslems. Using the format of an interview he published Pipes virulent anti-Islamic diatribe, probably to test the waters before proceeding to the next stage in the Mossad strategy to polarize a West-East confrontation.


Political Context for Action

There is a great body of evidence demonstrating that Iraq war was largely a result of a massive disinformation campaign by civilian militarists in the Pentagon and US Zionists in and out of high places in the Pentagon and civil society, in coordination with the Israeli state, which wanted Iraq to be destroyed as a viable nation. ("A Clean Break" 1996......."Project for a New American Century" 2000......The writers and signatories to these key policy papers subsequently holding important positions in the Bush II administration, and especially the Pentagon and Dick Cheney's office ........9/11/ 2001) There is no evidence that the major US oil corporations pressured Congress or promoted the war in Iraq or the current confrontation with Iran. There is plenty of evidence that they are very uneasy about the losses that may result from an Israeli attack on Iran.

The Zionist succeeded in their goals in Iraq: establishing a beachhead in the northern Kurdish enclave (Kurdistan), and securing assets in the new Iraqi regime via Chalabi and others.

The major Jewish organizations mobilized to oppose any critics of the Zionist policymakers, predictably accusing them of anti-Semitism. Nevertheless, over time, FBI investigations, CIA reports and judicial indictments have pointed to key Israeli operatives and their domestic collaborators as Israeli spies. While Israel benefited from the Bush-Blair invasion in Iraq, the same cannot be said for the United States. As thousands of casualties mounted, and war spending skyrocketed to hundreds of billions of dollars, opposition to the war escalated.

Israeli strategic plans to extend US military operations to Iran and Syria faced major challenges, from within the US military and public and even sections of the mass media. Mossad assets in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal and elsewhere had to settle for puff pieces on Iran's non-existent nuclear weapon threat, right after the same plot with regard to Iraq was exposed as a total fabrication.

Another line of propaganda was needed to silence war critics and heighten animosities to the Islamists/Arabs in general and Iran in particular. This is where the Flemming Rose-Mossad operation came into the picture. The Islamic-hate cartoons were published in Denmark in September 2005 as Israeli and US Zionists escalated their war propaganda against Iran. The initial response from the Islamic countries however was limited. The story wasn't picked up in the International Herald Journal until late December 2005. By early January 2006, Mossad /Katsas (Hebrew for case officers) activated sayanim (volunteer Jewish collaborators outside of Israel) throughout Western and Eastern European media to simultaneously reproduce the cartoons on Feb. 1 and 2, 2006. One such sayanim operation would have been the decision by France-Soir Senior Editor, Arnaud Levy and Editor in Chief Serge Faubert, to publish the cartoons. The paper's French Egyptian owner almost immediately fired the paper's Managing Editor, Jacques Lefranc, who, according to an interview with CNN, had initially opposed their publications, without touching Levy and Faubert.


A strident campaign was launched in practically all the pro-Western mass media condemning the initial, relatively moderate Islamic protests, which had occurred between September to December 2005 and rapidly provoked the subsequent massive escalation, doubtlessly aided by covert Mossad operatives among Arab populations. Mossad's little farts, the Danish intelligence fanned the fires by advising Denmark's rightwing Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen not to give way by refusing to apologize as the pro-Western Arab regimes requested and even refusing a request for a meeting with a group of Denmark-based diplomats from Arab and Moslem countries to discuss the situation.

Flemming Rose-Mossad tried one more gambit to further heighten East-West tension. He publicly offered to publish any Iranian cartoons which would mock the Holocaust in his paper. The senior editor of Jyllands-Posten, apparently belatedly caught on to Flemming Rose hidden agenda and vetoed the offer and asked Rose to take a leave of absence. Rose left for Miami, not Tel Aviv where his residency might raise suspicions about his claim to be merely an opponent of self-censorship. In Miami, he no doubt will have the protection of the locally based sayanin, armed and train for self-defense of threatened Zionists.

Sayanim : Defenders of Western Civilization

The sayanim, derived, according to Victor Ostrovsky, from the Hebrew word "to help" are a huge world-wide network of Jews in strategic or useful places (real estate, mass media, finance, car dealerships etc) who have been agreed to help in Israeli Mossad activities within their own countries. This has been ascribed to the supra-national loyalty sayanim offer to Israel, above and not always in the interest of their home country. According to Gordon Thomas and Martin Dillon, in their detailed biography, Robert Maxwell, Israel's Super spy (Carroll and Graf Publishers, 2002), the notorious media mogul, Robert Maxwell, was a super-sayanim, providing cover, offices, political connections, money-laundering services and planted stories in the service of Israel at the Mossad"s behest. Jonathan Pollard, the American Naval Researcher jailed for espionage, is another notorious sayanim.

The activities of these helpers really range from the spectacular to the more mundane and, according to Victor Ostrovsky, in his 1990 biography "By Way of Deception", the sayanim represent a pool of thousands of active and inactive individuals who can provide services discretely out of loyalty to the cause of Israel as defined by any current Mossad operation. The cynicism of this arrangement is clear: It makes little difference to the Mossad if an operation, such as Flemming Rose, jeopardizes the national and economic interests of the sayanim's own country and , if exposed, might harm the status of Jews in the diaspora. The standard response from the Mossad would be: "So what's the worst that could happen to those Jews. They's all come to Israel. Great." This recklessness clearly has ramifications for Jews who have refused to be recruited as Mossad helpers in affected countries.


Mossad War Propaganda and the Cartoon Controversy.

Israeli leaders expressed their opposition to the Bush Administration's diplomatic efforts to engage the European powers in the Iran negotiations. Automatically and without question all the major Zionist and Jewish organizations in the US (AIPAC, Presidents of the Major Jewish Organizations, ADL and others) unleashed a sustained national campaign to mobilize congress and their friends in the executive branch to take immediate military action or to impose economic sanctions on Iran. The Bush Administration however while in agreement, lacked public support in the US and among his European allies and their national electorates. The Mossad policy was to create a pretext to polarize public opinion between the Middle East (and beyond) and the West in order to escalate tensions and demonize Islamic adversaries to its Middle East hegemonis pretensions. Rose cartoons served the Mossad perfectly.

The issue could be presented as a free speech issue, a conflict of values not interests, between the democratic West and the fundamentalist totalitarian (as characterized by Pipes-Rose) Islamists. Nothing could be further from the truth. Rose had solicited and selected the Islamic caricatures while his paper had rejected similar cartoons of Jesus Christ in an earlier context. The image of Rose as a cultural iconoclast - while working for a right wing daily whose daily fare was publishing anti-(Mid-East)immigrant news stories and favorable interviews with Zionists extremists - is prima facie not credible, although that image has been purveyed by all the major media outlets. While Rose initiated the international tensions, liberal and neo-con colleagues and his comrades in and out of the Mossad publicized his transgressions and provoked the ire of the Arab and Islamic world.

The cartoons, the subsequent insults and calumnies attacking the Islamic protestors and their secular allies throughout Africa, the Middle East, Asia and Europe eventually provoked major peaceful and then violent protests by millions of people.

Visual images of violent protests and demonstrations were featured by the Western mass media, successfully creating the intended fear and apprehension against Muslim countries and minorities in Europe. Islamophobia gained momentum. Zionist propagandists in Europe and the US linked the defense of free speech issue to Israeli security policies. While the West turned its fury against the Islamic protestors, Israel blockaded Gaza and the US and Europe cut off all funding to the Palestinians, threatening the population with mass starvation for exercising its democratic right to elect its own leaders!

Rose's free speech charade revived the discredited ZionCon doctrine of Clash of Civilizations.

Playing on European Islamophobia and the increasing sensibility of practicing Moslems and Arab nationalists to Western abuses, it is likely that Israeli psych-war experts pinpointed the free speech issue as the ideal detonator for the conflict.

The democratic electoral victory of Hamas dubbed by Israel as a terrorist movement accelerated Israeli efforts to convince Western governments to insist that regimes in Muslim countries repress the irrational Islamic masses or face Western censure or elimination of aid. (The failure to crack down violently on demonstrators was presented by the media as official approval or instigation) The major US Zionist organizations were able to influence Secretary of State Rice into blaming Iran and Syria for fomenting the worldwide demonstrations, from Gaza to the Philippines. The Israeli strategy was to use European outrage to weaken opposition to a military attack or economic sanctions on Iran and Syria.


Beyond Religious Blasphemy

While most establishment analysts have narrowly focused on the cartoon as the source and target of the massive global demonstrations, in fact it is at best the immediate detonator of a whole series of ongoing events of much greater political significance. From the shock and awe carpet bombing of Iraq, to the mass torture and routine everyday humiliation in occupied countries, from the utter destruction of Fallujah (an American example as Guernica was for the Nazis), to Israeli devastation of Jenin and Palestine, from the everyday assassinations of Palestinians by the Israeli occupiers, to the smearing of the Koran with filth at Guantanamo, Israel, the US and Europe have attempted to demonstrate that no Moslems are safe anywhere- not in their schools, home, offices, fields, factories or mosques- and that nothing is sacred.

The reasons that millions are demonstrating against a caricature of Mohammed published in an insignificant Scandinavian rightwing newspaper is that this is the last straw the detonator of a series of deliberate violations of fundamental social and political rights of Muslim, Arab and colonized peoples. While the Western media have focused exclusively on the religious content of the demonstrators, almost every country, where massive sustained demonstrations have taken place, has been subject to recent Western intervention, large-scale pillage of raw materials and/or experienced the destruction of their secular rights: countries invaded, homes, schools, hospital, systems of health and clean water demolished, agriculture and natural resources looted, museums, libraries and archeological sites pillaged and mosques desecrated.

The present condition for material existence has been a Western inferno for all the people (both secular and observant) living in Arab or Islamic countries. Now their most profound, historic, spiritual reference point, the prophet Mohammed the most cherished religious figure has been repeatedly trampled with impunity by arrogant imperialists, their media servants, aided and abetted by the Israeli state and its overseas sayanin operatives. It is cynical to suggest that practicing Moslems could desecrate the figure of Jesus Christ with impunity when that too is forbidden by the Koran.

As the Israeli strategists well knew in advance, the vilification of Islam was not taking place in a political vacuum: The material conditions for an Islamic-Arab uprising were ripe: Hamas had swept the Palestinian elections, the US military were aware that they were losing the war in Iraq, Iran was refusing to capitulate, Bush was losing public support for ongoing and future Middle Eastern wars, AIPAC, Israel's main political instrument for influencing US policy was under criminal investigation. Israel's strategy of having the US fight its wars was boomeranging. There was a need to revive the political-military tensions which they had exploited after September 11, 2001 to Israel's advantage: hence the Flemming Rose provocation, hence the coordinated, wide promotion of the act, hence the free speech agitation among Western sayanin, liberals, conservatives and neocon ideologues, hence the predictable explosion of protest, hence the recreation of Mid-East tension and the advances of Israel's agenda.

Clearly the burgeoning confrontation is more than a religious or free speech issue, more than the crude provocations of an errant cultural editor coddled by the "little farts" of a penetrated Danish intelligence agency. What is at stake is the deliberate racist stereotyping of Arab, Islamic and Third World people in order to sustain and deepen their oppression, exploitation and subordination.

The most pervasive, prolific and influential source of racist Arab stereotypes are Israel and its overseas (particularly US and European) academics, terror "experts", psychologists at the most prestigious universities and think tanks, who have provided the "psychological profile" to torture, humiliate, provoke and repress the millions struggling for self-determination against colonial and imperial dominance.

Once again Israel and especially its overseas operatives have placed the expansion and militarist interests of Israel above the interests of the people of the US and Europe. Is it good for the Jews?: A criterion as defined by the Israeli state, has led to the blind alley of massive confrontations, deepening animosity between Arabic/Muslim peoples and Western regimes.

What appeared so clever to the Roses of the world and their Katsas and docile Sayanim, in provoking confrontation may once again boomerang: The uprisings may go beyond protesting symbols of vilification to attacking the substance of power, including the Arab and Moslem pro-consuls and collaborators of the Euro-American political and economic power. While the Mossad is very astute in infiltrating and provoking oppressed groups, it has been singularly inept in controlling and containing the resultant uprisings as the recent victory of Hamas demonstrates and the success of the Iraqi resistance illustrates.

The next controversial cartoon may show Moses leading his people into the desert.

Epilogue

While the Mossad-provoked "free speech versus blasphemy" controversy between the West and the Islamic peoples continues to deepen, Israel proceeds to impose a Nazi-like economic siege over 4 million Palestinians, intended to starve them into surrendering their democratic freedoms. Intended is the concise term, Gideon Levy, star reporter for the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz (19/02/06) records Dov Weissglas, advisor to the Israeli Prime Minister, jokingly telling top officials "Its (the economic blockage which may include electricity and water, as well as food) like an appointment with a dietician. The Palestinians will get a lot thinner but won't die." The Israeli officials rolled with laughter.

As Levy points out more than half of all Palestinians are already living in poverty last year 37 had difficulties obtaining food 54% of the residents of Gaza cut back the amount of food they consume; child mortality rose by 15% unemployment reached 28%. Planned pre-meditated mass starvation of a ghettoized population, jokingly discarded by its executioners as "a visit to the dietician", is an exact replica of the internal policy discussion of the Nazi high command over the population in the Warsaw Ghetto. Israel's capacity to impose and implement a genocidal policy has been greatly facilitated by the symbolic sideshow, which the Mossad-Rose orchestrated in Western Europe. "Cultural" conflict at the service of genocide is hardly a clever ruse or merely a violation of Islamic sensibilities, it is a crime against humanity.

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The original article is HERE.

Let there be no silence before history repeats itself.

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Comrade Genrikh Yagoda




Criticism, conversation between individuals and reflective thinking are the foundations and bedrock of civilization. The obvious unstated truths, which most of us understand.


When governments legislate against this basic right, under the guise of political correctness...........it invariably constitutes a threat to the basic advancement of civilization; that simple.

A particular cabal wish to advance their interests, and they require an unquestioning public to follow their policies without question, without arguments, without reflection, without criticism or any intervening conversation between individuals.

Hurry, hurry hurry, shut your mouth and follow the orders..............indeed this must be the organizational ethos of most Mafia groups around the world, operating within a highly inflexible Pyramid, North African power structure.

But let us compare this modern standard with past leaders in history who ran regimes or otherwise which most people agreed were incorruptible and wholesome.

How would George Washington deal with somebody if they accused him of being a traitor to the King, and a criminal rebel................depending on who said it, and how it was said, and when it was said, and where it was said.............he might well laugh and shrug it off.........or grimace, and make an appropriate terse retort..............or choose to totally ignore it and not dignify it, if uttered by a nonentity, which has no connection to reality and the truth.

And if somebody accused Gandhi in person of being a coolie demagogue; a half naked fakir..........I could well imagine him smile gently, and try and engage the person who made such a remark. Why would somebody say such a thing?

For the great and the good such slanders and criticisms are like water off a ducks back.....there is conceivably no basis for such things so why take them seriously?.................Why give them additional credit by over reacting against them?

For a certified hardcore criminal, whether as an individual or within a cabal the opposite is true. Any and all criticism, unfair and the balanced ones must be made illegal....the full weight of the law must be applied.....nobody must criticize them.....they are above the law.

This is exactly what happened in the Soviet Union after October 1918, when the Bolsheviks took over. One of the very first acts they passed was to make criticism of Jews a crime....................you could be sent to the gulag..............or you could simply be executed.

WHY?

Well we may get some answers by reflecting and taking a critical look at Soviet history.

1. We know many people died when the Russian Czarist empire came under Soviet rule....according to Alexander Solzhenitsyn as many as 60 million people may have perished between 1918--1991. The emergency rule of the early years; forced collectivization; Holmidor in the Ukraine.......and the great purges of the 1930's ........and so on.....and so on.

2. We know from Jewish sources that a high percentage of the Soviet Communist apparatus were run by Jews, professing to be secular Communists with often Russified Slavic names....and that possibly Lenin, Stalin, Khrushchev may themselves had Jewish lineage.

3. We know that not one Synagogue was destroyed in the Soviet Union, but many churches and some mosques were destroyed, whilst under Bolshevik atheist rule.

4. We know that nearly ALL the victims of the Soviet penal system were non-Jewish.........most were innocent people who had been caught up in the evil brutal Bolshevik system of the Soviet Union.

5. We know the Soviet Union had an international agenda to spread their ideology to ALL parts of the world, once it was consolidated in the Soviet Union, through force of arms where necessary.

6. We know that the Soviet Jewish experiment was funded by Banks based in New York, a core of the leadership led by Trotsky based and nurtured in New York, sailed from there to start the Soviet revolution in 1917.

7. We know Jewish financial houses in New York played a pivotal role in the strategic industrialization of the Soviet Union.......making it the second greatest industrial power after America. We know that this close relationship continued into the so called hoax of the "Cold war".

8. We know that the Cuban missile Crisis took place in 1962, where purportedly the two super powers came close to a nuclear war.

The ordinary Soviets were denied their fundamental right to question their leaders, and policies....................and the end result was 73 years of dire misery and phenomenal mistakes by the Soviet Union....in all spheres of life.........if a problem was uncovered whether in the political, economic or strategic sphere it was hushed up, lest the "weaknesses" of the Soviet Socialist paradise be exposed to the Capitalist West to ridicule.

And so as the security is tightened in the USA, and UK under a Jewish agenda driven philosophy and strategy, people living in those two Great countries must be aware; they must be alert......for history can repeat itself....where in 2005, not that far away in the near past the head of the KGB/FSB, Yevgeny Primakov (Jewish), and the head of the East German Stasi, Markus Wolf (retired to Israel)...............came to the USA to advise the Homeland Security Department how to operate more effectively.

Stalin's Jews:"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

Communism is a Social Catastrophe

Gulag Archipelago

Comrade Yezhov

http://mostaqueali.blogspot.com/2008/07/stalins-jews.html

Aug 29, 2009

The Kashmir Declaration.

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It is dawn, and the PM ManMohan Singh lands at an undisclosed location somewhere in Kashmir. He is accompanied by most members of the cabinet, heads of the armed forces and senior civil servants following his entourage..........................The PM drives on along with his entourage towards the LoC.

There at the LoC they stop, and slowly disembark from their vehicles gradually, and the illustrious entourage head towards the LoC. At the LoC a huge white tent has already been erected, half in India, half in Pakistan Kashmir. Standing by the tent is PM Gilani who had arrived a little earlier, and his entourage of senior military and cabinet officers, including Gen. Kiyani and Gen. Suja Pasha.

The two PM's shake hands....and exchange pleasenteries....."so good seeing you again"..."The weather is beautiful"......"I feel today is a historic day for all South Asia"...."I think so too".........."62 years is enough time for neighboring countries both of which are now democracies to be able to sort out their problems....peacefully, constructively and maturely"......."Yes indeed".

The two men then proceed into the tent........and sign the "Kashmir Declaration"...a document very simple in its objectives, but profound in its implications:


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The Kashmir Declaration.
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1. The present boundary and LoC between India and Pakistan in relation to Jammu & Kashmir, and the Northern areas will henceforth be recognised as the defacto international boundaries of the two countries. This agreement does not cover Askai Chin and other disputed boundaries in Eastern Kashmir.
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2. All areas of control by the two parties to this declaration in relation to all Jammu & Kashmir under control by India and Pakistan respectively are henceforth treated as sovereign territories of the two respective countries, the fact of which is not to be disputed by either party at any domestic or international forum by government officers and elected government officials of the two respective parties.
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3. The two parties to this declaration, namely India and Pakistan will enhenceforth sincerely and diligently, in good faith as neighbors avoid any attempts at interference in the internal affairs of their respective countries, particularly in relation to Kashmir.
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4. Any intervening problems that do arise in relation to ALL Jammu Kashmir under Indian and Pakistani control in the future, must be addressed bilaterally, without the intervention of Third Parties in the spirit of good faith, through clearly established inter state mechanism to be established through negotiations in the future, be they diplomatic, military, intelligence or the police.
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5. The declaration is a broad statement within the context of international customary law to establish a general platform upon which future negotiations between the two nations, over Jammu Kashmir can move forward in relation to the fine details of a future comprehensive agreement between the two countries in a mutual atmosphere of amicable, constructive cooperation which leads to more a comprehensive binding agreement in the future.
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